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DB Cooper / Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Last post by Chaucer on June 02, 2023, 10:02:54 PM »
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I'm dabbling in the Zodiac case now. The Cooper thing has my full attention at the moment.

Bruce finished his sojourn to the Caribbean and is back in the States. He tells me he is doing well.

Good to know about Bruce.  What about this Edwards fella?  Do you think he is the Zodiac?  i mean, sorry to go back to this but I just heard more of him and some of the Cobert interview,( I am talking about the  Megyn Kelly interview with Cobert 11months go).  and some are hell bent convinced he is the bird?  Post is another that is up there on the list I guess? I know you have studied this.  Justy wondering if  you are convinced its someone or if you  are on the fence?
No. Edwards and Poste are terrible candidates. Let me put it this way: Rackstraw is a better suspect for Cooper than Poste is a suspect for Zodiac. Many of Colbert's claims about Poste were completely debunked in 48 hours on Zodiac forums.
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DB Cooper / Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Last post by DBfan57 on June 01, 2023, 02:26:18 PM »
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I'm dabbling in the Zodiac case now. The Cooper thing has my full attention at the moment.

Bruce finished his sojourn to the Caribbean and is back in the States. He tells me he is doing well.

Good to know about Bruce.  What about this Edwards fella?  Do you think he is the Zodiac?  i mean, sorry to go back to this but I just heard more of him and some of the Cobert interview,( I am talking about the  Megyn Kelly interview with Cobert 11months go).  and some are hell bent convinced he is the bird?  Post is another that is up there on the list I guess? I know you have studied this.  Justy wondering if  you are convinced its someone or if you  are on the fence?  Id shoot Post myself if he were not already dead the piece of crap.  Colbert is very smart and convincing as you know.
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DB Cooper / Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Last post by DBfan57 on May 31, 2023, 11:23:02 AM »
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I'm dabbling in the Zodiac case now. The Cooper thing has my full attention at the moment.

Bruce finished his sojourn to the Caribbean and is back in the States. He tells me he is doing well.

Good to know about Bruce.  What about this Edwards fella?  Do you think he is the Zodiac?  i mean, sorry to go back to this but I just heard more of him and some of the Cobert interview,( I am talking about the  Megyn Kelly interview with Cobert 11months go).  and some are hell bent convinced he is the bird?  Post is another that is up there on the list I guess? I know you have studied this.  Justy wondering if  you are convinced its someone or if you  are on the fence?
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DB Cooper / Re: General Questions About The Case
« Last post by snowmman on May 26, 2023, 07:07:41 PM »
Just noticed this at dz.com (sorry i didn't note the credit)
copying here just for info.

braden's discharge (dd-214) from his wwii era enlistment

noted he had gray eyes then (brown hair)
the later pennsyvlania police report had noted gray/hazel

another case of his signature at the bottom also
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DB Cooper / Re: General Questions About The Case
« Last post by snowmman on May 26, 2023, 02:12:44 AM »
Georgia, Muscogee County
The following appeared in The Columbus Ledger on January 17th 1950 on page 17:

There will be sold at public outcry to the highest and best bidder for cash before the Court House door of Muscogee County between the legal hours of sale. on the first Tuesday in February, 1950, the following property to-wit:

One 1946 Club Coupe Mercury automobile, Motor No 96A1318394 Said property was found in possession of Hardaway Motor Co. and levied on as the property of Ted B. Braden Jr. to satisfy a foreclosure on conditional bill of sale against him in favor of Federal Services Finance Corporation from the Superior Court of Muscogee County, Ga.

This the 30th day of December, 1949. E. F. Howell, Sheriff, Muscogee Co., Georgia January 16, 17, 24, 31, 1950.
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DB Cooper / Re: General Questions About The Case
« Last post by snowmman on May 26, 2023, 02:08:26 AM »
interesting comment that Braden was a "gambler" while married to the first wife  (from the 1950 census?)

 
In the 1950 federal census, Ted was 21, married and living in Columbus Georgia. He was a boarder in the house of Cecil and Breta Jones. Also in the household were Ted and Rosalind's 3 children. Ted stated that he was a gambler in the entertainment industry. A newspaper article from about that time shows his financial circumstances. See Georgia, Muscogee County.

I checked the 1950 census and it's true. the relevant page is attached below
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DB Cooper / Re: General Questions About The Case
« Last post by snowmman on May 25, 2023, 08:56:40 PM »
Given the small number of macv-sog...
if there was even an inkling of macv-sog suspicion, there couldn't be more than 10 people worth investigating.

I mean I wonder what the list of 10 would be.

Braden was the only thing I came up with.
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DB Cooper / Re: General Questions About The Case
« Last post by snowmman on May 25, 2023, 08:53:51 PM »
i did a search of ocr'ed text of the fbi files on "vietnam" and macv

some vietnam. Not much

I'll try special forces and green beret. Doubt there's anything.

They just didn't think they were dealing with a vietnam guy I think, because of the age issue.
they thought they had a middle-aged guy from stateside. (biased thinking)
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DB Cooper / Re: General Questions About The Case
« Last post by snowmman on May 25, 2023, 08:52:07 PM »
Here's one thing we haven't discussed.
The mythology around the invincible Ted Braden.

Note the mythology extends to WWII. I mean people just like telling stories about how Ted was able to stay alive in risky combat situations.

But look at the petty crimes he got caught for. Seems to me, that he was mediocre when it came to crime. How much other crime did he do that was not discovered? Unknown.

The story of him and wife Pat owning Mercedes is intriguing.
She says she didn't file for divorce because of lack of money.
I'm thinking there was a time when there was money.
Where did it come from? Other petty crime? Trucking insurance fraud?

Braden could be the mixture of competence in one area, and not great competence in another area.

The stories around Braden like to paint him as equally brilliant in everything he did.

He wasn't.

Even the macv-sog stories are a little overstated. None of the missions accomplished as much as they like to say they did.
Sure the guys took risks, And died and took casualties.
But taking risks and dieing...there will always be survivors at some level.
It's hard to say what is attributable to being "good at it"

The best way to stay alive is to not take risks. Or to do things that others think are risky (appearance risk) that really aren't.

Because if the risk is real, you eventually die. Or get caught and sent to federal prison...:)

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DB Cooper / Re: General Questions About The Case
« Last post by Olemisscub on May 25, 2023, 03:46:35 PM »
for what it's worth, Carr said he can't recall seeing Braden's name in any of the 302's. Additionally, I asked him if he ever recalls seeing "MACVSOG" or some other iteration of it and he said he did not. This, of course, makes sense because classified information wasn't put in 302's. With SOG being classified at the time, Carr said they'd probably just leave out the specifics and refer to any of those suspects as "Green Berets" or generic "Special Forces"
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