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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by Chaucer on January 06, 2024, 12:58:06 PM »Hi Chaucer.I don’t disagree. The problem is that those events lack timestamps so placing them with the context of a chronology becomes vastly more subjective.
well there were many other events happening during the time period, just not associated with the plane.
to really flesh out a chronology, it'd be nice to have time periods for parachute acquistion and delivery and money acquisition and delivery
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by snowmman on January 03, 2024, 06:33:32 PM »Hi Chaucer.
well there were many other events happening during the time period, just not associated with the plane.
to really flesh out a chronology, it'd be nice to have time periods for parachute acquistion and delivery and money acquisition and delivery
well there were many other events happening during the time period, just not associated with the plane.
to really flesh out a chronology, it'd be nice to have time periods for parachute acquistion and delivery and money acquisition and delivery
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DB Cooper / Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Last post by Chaucer on January 01, 2024, 11:00:22 PM »For the last few months, I have been working on updating Sluggo's famous NORJAK timeline. It's finally completed, and I am happy to share it with you.
The credit for this should go to W. Wayne Walker aka "Sluggo", an old school poster on the old Dropzone forum. He created the first comprehensive timeline over ten years ago. However, he did not have access to information that has become available to us in the years since. I merely updated his timeline with this new information and made it a bit more user friendly. Special thanks goes to olemisscub who assisted with fact-checking and proofreading.
My hope is that this chronology becomes as indispensible to us as Sluggo's was to the previous generation of researchers.
All suggestions and criticisms are welcome. Here it is:
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The credit for this should go to W. Wayne Walker aka "Sluggo", an old school poster on the old Dropzone forum. He created the first comprehensive timeline over ten years ago. However, he did not have access to information that has become available to us in the years since. I merely updated his timeline with this new information and made it a bit more user friendly. Special thanks goes to olemisscub who assisted with fact-checking and proofreading.
My hope is that this chronology becomes as indispensible to us as Sluggo's was to the previous generation of researchers.
All suggestions and criticisms are welcome. Here it is:
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
« Last post by DBfan57 on December 15, 2023, 02:23:36 PM »Some sad news to report.
W. Wayne Walker aka Sluggo aka Sluggo Monster passed away on Dec. 27th, 2022. He was 74.
He envisioned his website as the library of the Cooper case and himself as the librarian. The contents of that website are still being used and referenced today and will likely be used for years to come. His overall contributions to the case cannot be overstated. His departure from the Vortex was, in my opinion, a tremendous loss.
RIP Sluggo.
Im very sorry to hear this. So how have you been? I have not been here in some time. Bruce now retired and I knew him only. So fast question, of course you do not have to answer. Watching this guy Chris Todd. I guess he believes Arthur Lee Allen is the Zodiac? Do you think he has something in this guy? Of course I know you are deep into that case and know all the names. I am an amateur on it and to be honest, the case I have the most interest in is JFK still. I subscribe to America's Untold Stories with Mark Groubert. A very smart guy along with his guy Erik Hundley I do not believe everything he believes to be true. So back to Zodiac, he is pretty well sold on Arthur Lee Allen.
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Robert99 on November 28, 2023, 02:38:34 PM »As I recall the F 106s never saw the 727. A “trash hauler” C 130 out of McChord did a visual intercept, much to the chagrin of the fighter jocks.As I understand it, the C-130 joined up with the airliner in Oregon sometime before it was handed off to the Oakland Center in northern California. The C-130 did have visual contact and stayed with the airliner all the way to Reno.
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The fighter aircraft did not have visual contact due to the bad weather in the Portland area. However, the F-106s did have radar contact with the airliner and that counts as a contact.
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by 377 on November 27, 2023, 11:39:10 PM »As I recall the F 106s never saw the 727. A “trash hauler” C 130 out of McChord did a visual intercept, much to the chagrin of the fighter jocks.
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DB Cooper / Re: New Forum & News Updates
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DB Cooper / Re: The Cooper Vortex Podcast
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DB Cooper / Re: Flight Path And Related Issues
« Last post by Robert99 on November 07, 2023, 12:07:59 PM »I have no doubt that Sage radar was working that night. Although 305's elevation might caused a very brief hiccup, at times , I see no reason to doubt the Sage radar. I believe Sage probably performed as expected. I believe it was the inability of the 106's to actually " intercept" flight 305 that caused a breech in our national defense system. I don't think it was foreseen that the 106's couldn't fly with 305 under the conditions of that night. The repercussions from this affected the case in a myriad of ways, in my humble opinion. I also believe this to (understandably) have been intentionally understated by the military and authorities.
Haggar, here are some questions you apparently believe you have the answer to so please enlighten me:
1. Specifically, what is the SAGE radar you refer to? There were many radar sets operating in 1971, and I have never heard of one being called a SAGE radar.
2. What is the basis for your claim that the SAGE system was even operating the night of the hijacking? Never been proven to my knowledge.
3. What is the basis for your claim that the F-106s did not intercept the airliner? They did.
4. What is the basis for your claim that the hijacking breached the US national defense system? It didn't.
Eagerly awaiting your answers.