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How did the money arrive on Tena Bar

River Flooding
1 (5%)
Floated to it's resting spot via Columbia river
2 (10%)
Planted
6 (30%)
Dredge
11 (55%)
tossed in the river in a paper bag
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: August 16, 2016, 09:05:28 AM

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Offline Shutter

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #660 on: February 10, 2015, 09:02:16 PM »
I saved your questions to a draft. I'll add the rest as the come along, and then compile into one post with the names involved asking the questions.
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #661 on: February 10, 2015, 09:47:03 PM »
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It'll be the same questions as last time,

-Does he have a list of places where Cooper could have picked up those titanium particles
-are there any money experiments in progress
-Where's the book he hinted at writing in Skyjack?
 etc.

Could some of the metals/substances found on the tie come from a printing/counterfeiting operation?
You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #662 on: February 10, 2015, 09:51:06 PM »
Got it.....
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #663 on: February 10, 2015, 11:44:15 PM »
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It'll be the same questions as last time,

-Does he have a list of places where Cooper could have picked up those titanium particles
-are there any money experiments in progress
-Where's the book he hinted at writing in Skyjack?
 etc.

Could some of the metals/substances found on the tie come from a printing/counterfeiting operation?

Smile - knew you would ask this. Let's do this. Shutter and I are in contact with Tom .... so Tom might just come and answer yours too ... could we hang on for a bit and wait for an opening with Tom?  I think Tom is the person to answer your question. So... hang on to your question ... Shutter keep Vicki's question in mind, and we will get Tom here asap. Ok?
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #664 on: February 11, 2015, 01:55:31 AM »
I'd love to see more analysis on mineral deposits on the money. Is that possible?

Also, can Tom tell us what the FBI has tested for on the money?

Lastly, what does Tom see as the province of investigation dedicated to the CS, and what remains in control of the FBI?
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #665 on: February 11, 2015, 08:06:09 AM »
got it....
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #666 on: February 11, 2015, 11:30:27 PM »
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got it....

I have asked Tom to come here and share his elemental work on the money - and answer a few questions.
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #667 on: February 11, 2015, 11:37:49 PM »
If you read my PM, that's exactly what I was doing.

I contacted Tom several days ago....

"I can respond I just don’t have time to  monitor the forum. Just email me when someone has a question and I will pop in.
 
Tom"
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #668 on: February 12, 2015, 08:15:23 AM »
Georger, I have put all the questions into one post. do you have a question to add to the list? if not I believe we are ready to pull the trigger, and have Tom stop by and reply. I will post the questions this evening.

Robert99, do you have any questions for Tom? 
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #669 on: February 12, 2015, 11:06:42 AM »
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Georger, I have put all the questions into one post. do you have a question to add to the list? if not I believe we are ready to pull the trigger, and have Tom stop by and reply. I will post the questions this evening.

Robert99, do you have any questions for Tom?

Not at this time.  Previously, when I had a question I e-mailed Tom directly and he always replied promptly.
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #670 on: February 12, 2015, 01:52:35 PM »
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Georger, I have put all the questions into one post. do you have a question to add to the list? if not I believe we are ready to pull the trigger, and have Tom stop by and reply. I will post the questions this evening.

Robert99, do you have any questions for Tom?

Not at this time.  Previously, when I had a question I e-mailed Tom directly and he always replied promptly.

Tom has been informed he has questions waiting for him here. Tom appears to be very busy with personal-business matters.

In addition, Tom's contact is at his website if anyone wants to contact him privately.


 
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #671 on: February 12, 2015, 02:21:46 PM »
The two central issues for the money still are: (a) when did the money arrive at Tina Bar, and (b) where was it prior to being at Tina Bar.

One problem making this determination is the bundles Ingram found were dismantled, and then dispersed. Is anyone sure which bills were outside bills vs interior bills in that aggregate (or aggregates) Ingram found? And today no single person even has all of the bills - the Court saw to that!

There were tests that could have been done in 1971 that would have shed light on the two central questions. Those tests were not done, so far as we know?. The same tests could still be run today with a little less reliability in the results, but it's doubtful those tests will ever be run under the prevailing conditions.

One series of tests are isotope tests, which can help determine how long an object has been exposed to the atmosphere. Obviously if an object has been buried or confined and has not been exposed to the air, test results reflect that. Bills on the outside of a bundles would show different values vs interior bills.

The bills that Ingram found should have been sequestered as 'evidence' and not separated further pending laboratory analysis. That versus the Hollywood Production shown in the FBI photo below - at a news conference! It makes me shudder!

 


 
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #672 on: February 12, 2015, 09:02:18 PM »
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Georger, I have put all the questions into one post. do you have a question to add to the list? if not I believe we are ready to pull the trigger, and have Tom stop by and reply. I will post the questions this evening.

Robert99, do you have any questions for Tom?

Not at this time.  Previously, when I had a question I e-mailed Tom directly and he always replied promptly.

Tom has been informed he has questions waiting for him here. Tom appears to be very busy with personal-business matters.

In addition, Tom's contact is at his website if anyone wants to contact him privately.


 


Georger, have you already contacted Tom? I had already spoken with him (explained in post above). I don't want to respond to him for the same thing you have done.  :-\ :-\ :-\
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #673 on: February 12, 2015, 09:02:44 PM »
Hello Tom, here are some questions people would like to ask you. I realize you are busy, so we appreciate your stopping by.

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Andrade1812:
Does he have a list of places where Cooper could have picked up those titanium particles
-are there any money experiments in progress
-Where's the book he hinted at writing in Skyjack?
 etc.
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Bruce Smith:
I'd love to see more analysis on mineral deposits on the money. Is that possible?

Also, can Tom tell us what the FBI has tested for on the money?

Lastly, what does Tom see as the province of investigation dedicated to the CS, and what remains in control of the FBI?
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Vicki Wilson:
Could some of the metals/substances found on the tie come from a printing/counterfeiting operation?
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Shutter:
What are your thoughts of the money being lost on the way down while flying over the Columbia upstream, and being brought to the surface via dredge. lots of evidence has shown dredges could bring it to the surface. NMIwrecks, a qualified diver of ship wrecks believe the money could stay preserved under water for years?

Do you believe the money was planted?
Do you know if all the dredge material on Tina bar came from the Tina area, and not up, or down stream?
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #674 on: February 12, 2015, 11:16:03 PM »
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Georger, I have put all the questions into one post. do you have a question to add to the list? if not I believe we are ready to pull the trigger, and have Tom stop by and reply. I will post the questions this evening.

Robert99, do you have any questions for Tom?

Not at this time.  Previously, when I had a question I e-mailed Tom directly and he always replied promptly.

Tom has been informed he has questions waiting for him here. Tom appears to be very busy with personal-business matters.

In addition, Tom's contact is at his website if anyone wants to contact him privately.


 


Georger, have you already contacted Tom? I had already spoken with him (explained in post above). I don't want to respond to him for the same thing you have done.  :-\ :-\ :-\

Yes Ive PMd you three times. Have stopped trying. Its in yours and Tom's hands.

Regarding Tom doing any elemental work on the bills he says in an email, quote: "The only ones I have of the money are of the silver contamination. Besides that there was nothing else of interest.  We got side tracked on that and it turned out to be silver nitrate from the FBI fingerprint solution remember?"

That's all I know.

Is Tom saying he never did any elemental work on the bills? I dunnoh! I only work here. Maybe I dreamed it all?

I wonder what these are?  Maybe Tom could come and explain why there is nothing of significance here, except for Ag from silver nitrate solution used for finger printing?
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