... If it exists its somewhere in Tosaw's notes and we will never have Tosaw's notes. That's a given. Most of his Cooper files went to his family and a few to Galen Cook, according to Cook. There are a few people I could call and I almost hate to start this. It's like 'here we go again - wild goose chase'. I know one person who might know if I can get to him. Maybe Smith knows or heard something?

Shutter wrote: "the placard, I've always wondered if he ripped that off the wall in frustration?"

Interesting theory. Some skydiving planes are plastered with stickers, both inside and out. They seem to stay put, remaining affixed year after year.

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Shutter wrote: "the placard, I've always wondered if he ripped that off the wall in frustration?"

Interesting theory. Some skydiving planes are plastered with stickers, both inside and out. They seem to stay put, remaining affixed year after year.

377

It would have been secured pretty well, you would think. then he has trouble with the stairs and that placard keeps telling him what to do, but nothing happens, so he takes it out on the placard. I don't know if it was glued, or riveted, but I'm guessing it wouldn't easily fall off.

Meyer Louie and Sailshaw went to Tina Bar over the weekend. they collected "genuine Tina Bar Sand" for the commemorative gifts. Meyer will be sending me the sand soon so I can start sending them out.

I would like to take the time to personally thank Meyer & Sailshaw for going the extra mile in order to make my project complete. the sand was the key to this, and they came through with flying colors...

Thanks again guys....

Shutter

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Here's where it gets oh so confusing.......

Kaye said that rubber bands of that type will last less than three months in the water but that they could have been preserved if they were buried in sand. From that, he postulates that the cash reached Tena Bar much sooner than thought.

"The story that the money spent many, many years somewhere else and ended up on Tena Bar is probably wrong," Kaye said. "It ended up on Tena Bar much sooner, probably shortly after he jumped."

He does not rule out the possibility that the hijacker and parachutes fell directly into the Columbia and were soon swept into the Pacific Ocean.

"It tells you (the money) likely didn't come down 20 miles of the Washougal River," Kaye said. "Then it brings up the question of where did Cooper really jump. We have reason to believe the jump zone was farther south. If the money landed in the Columbia, that would be the easiest explanation for how it got to Tena Bar."
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With all due respect to Tom Kaye and company because I greatly appreciate the time and work they put in - even if I don't necessarily agree with all of the conclusions - opinions in Cooper country can and do change like stories of the northwest weather on November 24, 1971. 

So my question to Tom is - Did you see a different or "non-redacted" version of the transcript - or the radar documents  -or other flight path/landing zone explanation that now convinces you that the publicized path/landing zone is correct? In other words, why did your belief change from what was quoted in this article? Was it closer examination of the documents that the public has been privy to or did you see additional documentation?

Very briefly, the 'non-natural means argument' being applied is in fact, a form of reductio ad absurdum.  example: Rocks have weight, otherwise we would see them floating in the air.

Lack of a facts explaining something, is not an excuse to start forming absurd conclusions.

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I'm going back through the early posts here on the Tena Bar Money Find, and once again, you can't help but be impressed with Smoking99's analysis and conclusions.  I miss her astute analysis. 

Georger's comments about "to start forming absurd conclusion" is exactly correct.  Tom Kaye jumps around in his conclusions so much I can't keep track of what he said here or didn't say there -- that's why I've often labeled his conclusions as "wimpy."  Tom Kaye lacks scientific rigor in his analysis and conclusions, he's a hobbyist, an amateur scientist.  Why do so many people listen to him?  The sooner you get a real scientist involved, the less confusion you will have.

Meyer

As for the diatoms, I would not claim that there are no diatoms on the bills. It is more correct to say we didn't find any. Looking back at my notes just now we never looked at the green money under the SEM so it could have had diatoms on them.

Tom