I tried something, but I only had 20 bills on me. if I wrapped the bands twice around 20 bills they collapsed. it wasn't close enough to 100 bills, but thought I'd give it a shot.

Here is 20 bills with a single band on them.

Wrap them twice and see what happens! Show us the photo...

Mr. Shutter, you are a breath of fresh air and gentleman and a scholar!

I want a statement from the Ingrams telling us where they saw these rubber bands on the money they dug out of the ground, in groups ?

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I tried something, but I only had 20 bills on me. if I wrapped the bands twice around 20 bills they collapsed. it wasn't close enough to 100 bills, but thought I'd give it a shot.

Here is 20 bills with a single band on them.

Wrap them twice and see what happens!

Mr. Shutter, you are a breath of fresh air and gentleman and a scholar!

I just did that 

It was right at the brink of wanting to fold up. I had to manipulate them to stay flat...

Now do you see what I mean about stress points where the bands wrap around the edges of the bills - those points are the high stress contact points, theoretically. There is more mechanical leverage being applied at those points than where the bands lay across the faces of the bills.

But, I dont see an band track front or back on this Cooper bill so this must be an interior bill in a bundle.

And, if these indents are from contact pressure of a rubber band, note the angle the band would have to be in ... the band is not in it's socalled "proper position" ala Kaye, but skewed for some reason. Maybe we are seeing the exact position the bank guy wrapped his band on that particular bundle in, would be my guess.

Incidentally, there are a whole bunch of these bill photos that show check marks like the photo posted. These indents are not confined to this bill alone!
 

When I do close ups on the money sitting on the table. I can't see any signs of where rubber bands could of been. I don't see anything down the sides either. I see signs of wet folds. something that would occur with bills being soaking wet, wavy?

That's why I'm wondering what the bills would do with a "sudden impact" either by losing the cash, or a no pull. the problem still remains to possibly changing the jump time, or location.

Here is what I can guess the band position would be in by your photo. I also tried to fit the bill into one that wasn't damaged.

Tom and I think Alan, the breakage engineer who worked with Tom, looked for signs of 'impact' or 'shock' and if I recall this correctly they didn't see anything obvious. Tom can elaborate or correct anything I'm saying at any time.

Any hard impact of the bag and its bundles would transfer energy through all of the bundles and place additional stress on the bands at their intersection points at the edges of each bound bundle, and on the paper fibers involved at these junction points.

All I can say is nobody apparently can see any obvious signs of stress in this money (at this late date) that guarantees these bills 'fell from the sky'. Or were impacted by the forces involved with a dredger, either. Maybe an expert on wear and breakage would see something obvious to his or her eye? It's an open question.
         

I removed my last comment. the numbers were incorrect. 1000 feet long, and 150 feet wide at 24 inches deep would need almost  925.9 cubic feet of material. 3 feet thick would be almost 1,388 cubic yards... I'll get this right yet 

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I did a close up on stack number 5 on your chart. take a look at the section circled. it appears to have been done by a rubber band? it looks like a stress fold of some sort. it looks like it started to tear, but the band held if from doing this? stack #11 seems to have folds in it as well?

Looking again, it appears to be folds in the Presidents outfit.....

There are other indents ?  But there is folding is at your site...   

I see apparent signs of something happening to this money. stack #11 has bothered me for sometime now. it looks like hell, anyway you look at it. I don't think it's from sitting around either...

I know. It's hard to know what's natural wear and what may be mechanical wear. Sometimes I think some of these groups look like they were sand blasted! But as soon as I say that somebody will tell me Im nuts. (Farfling never leaves my mind   ) I am trying not to form any conclusions but think about concrete tests that will resolve specific issues. I wish Farflung was here to shake us up!    We have to stay Far away from this becoming a 'mutual admiration society'! We have to stay objective or this becomes just one more Cooperland figment, if it isn;t already!

I sent Farf a PM a couple weeks ago, but I haven't got any response 

Backing up - competing theories are:

1. money arrived from close by ~ Cooper landed close by ~ requires amending flightpath ~ Robert99
2. money washed in from further away ~ FBI FP time of drop amended Cooper lands closer to Columbia ~ Georger ?
3. other wash-in theory ~ source construction Hayden or Govt Island ~ Farflung ~ Maj. Dawson ?
4. dredging theory ~ money deposited on Tena Bar in 1974 ~weathers out to be discovered in 1980 ~ Shutter ?
5. plant ~ Kaye ?

Minor theories:
1. Washougal washdown ~ not supported by flight path parameters (R99 etal) - Himmelsbach & Thomas
2. Weber wash in ~ Duane tossed bag of money into river at Red Lyon Inn washed up on Tena Bar.
3. Weber plant ~ Tina Mucklow planted money on Tena Bar because Tina = Tena. Tina was under Duane's spell!
4. Blevins plant ~ KC and/or Geestman planted "3 bundolas" (money offered Tina) on Tena Bar. Proof by Motives!
5. Ice theory - proposed by an FBI agent - money arrived encased in ice from somewhere. An elegant theory but Temp records don't seem to support an 'ice' theory ? Amazon says not likely. 

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dredging theory ~ money deposited on Tena Bar in 1974 ~weathers out to be discovered in 1980 ~ Shutter ?

I can't say one way or the other at the present moment. I can't throw out the theory either. the money doesn't look like it's been out in the elements doing time. I have a good photo of stack #11, but it's on my computer that had the hard drive go south on me. it's in a PM on DZ somewhere, but it shows damage to that stack, even a possible cut in it.

I can't get past the plane flying over the river upstream......someone gets lost in the snow. you follow the tracks?

Could you access your PMs sent at Dropzone and retrieve the photo? Your personal PM's may still be working there?