Are you including a bundle, and not one bill?

sorry .. yes that would be for a $2000 dollar bundle.   Single bill would be:  2.61 x 6.14 x .0043 inches and a single bill weighs 1 gram.

They are the same one's he used. they gave him lots of them. I can ask, or just wait till they get here....?

More on three bundolas!~

Been reading past posts, some of them excellent, on the money find, rubber bands, etc.

Ckret basically says there was not enough time to make a written record of the serial numbers grouped and packed and banded into bundles. However all of the bills were recorded on a 'microfiche'? Rather than a written record of that microfiche some poor secretary spent hours copying all of the serial numbers on that microfiche then rearranged those serial numbers ... into 'alphabetical' or 'serial' order? A copy of that list was shared with banks et cetera. Thus we have the website: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login and other sources for the list.

Bills were run through a counter to make up a $200,000 package of bills. Each bill was recorded on a microfiche to record the serial numbers. All of that was automated! And of that long line of 10,000 $20 dollar bills, groups were grabbed and bundled with bands into 'bundolas of bills'    Bundolas were of varying sizes! $750 in one. $2000 in the next. $1040 in the next. Until there were no more $20 dollar bills left on the table or in the bin to grab and bundle 'bundolas' with! 

So, there is effectively no way to know what serial numbers went into whatever bundle! Except that maybe the first number on the microfiche went into the first bundle, and the last number on the microfiche went into the last bundle? Maybe?    And there is no written record which records the order of bills of the microfiche!   

The hijacking caught everyone unprepared.

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So, I guess we can assume that more than 100 "bundolas" were in the bag. 

ok, so is there a list of the serial #'s in Ingram's find?

Seems to me we went over this at DZ but I forget how that discussion concluded ? Maybe R99 remembers?

10,000 twenties. undetermined number of bundles contents of which are undetermined and unrecorded, Ingram find of at least $5800 which included what serials #'s ... ? 

We have to get Meyer here!

 

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So, I guess we can assume that more than 100 "bundolas" were in the bag. 

ok, so is there a list of the serial #'s in Ingram's find?

Seems to me we went over this at DZ but I forget how that discussion concluded ? Maybe R99 remembers?

10,000 twenties. undetermined number of bundles contents of which are undetermined and unrecorded, Ingram find of at least $5800 which included what serials #'s ... ? 

We have to get Meyer here!

 

I do believe a list of the serial numbers of the bills the Ingram's found is online somewhere on DZ.

If it is I cant find it. Lots of posts about Ingram's 82/83 bills but no list of serial #. One of the better posts is this:

testxyz

Aug 28, 2013, 9:29 AM
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Re: [georger] Tina or Tena bar? [In reply to]
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Is a complete list of the of the Ingram serial numbers there too?

I haven't seen a list of ingram serial numbers anywhere. It would be
nice for Brian ingram to publish the serial numbers he has. I imagine
he has enough of the 300 serial numbers to possibly develop a very good pattern of how the bills were sorted.

Sometimes I wonder how many of the Tena bar serial numbers are legible. In some pictures the bills seem completely black (looks like a black sheet of paper) from exposure to the enviroment.

I developed my Tena Bar SN list from pictures of Tena Bar money found on the net.

Currently I'm up to 20 serial numbers. I have finally found two serial numbers from the same bundle.

If I can find many more serial numbers and they continue to cluster genernally within just a few bundles then I think we can say for certain the money was generally bundled in a alpha-numeric order (as found on micofiche) when cooper got the bundles.
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enlarged crop of above Alliance rubber band ball photo - zoom in. Note there are several different types of bands (different formulations). Each formulation type shows a different stage of degeneration; in the same time period.

Kaye etal say:

Fact: Rubber bands were found intact on the bundles of D.B. Cooper money but crumbled off when touched. The rubber bands around the Cooper bundles were extremely degraded but still in their proper positions when found. If the bundles had been exposed to the elements for an extended period, then the rubber should have degraded and lost the ability to hold the bundles together. Since the rubber bands were found intact, this places a "degradation limit" on when the bundles became buried on Tena Bar.

Intact is defined as:  Intact: not broken or damaged : having every part…not altered, broken, or impaired; remaining uninjured, sound, or whole; untouched; unblemished: The vase remained intact despite rough handling [Miriam Webster Dictionary]

Since Tom was not there who is he relying on in this statement 'the rubber bands were found intact'? Brian Ingram who was eight year old savant on rubber bands!?

And if this is the case, where are the missing intact rubber bands Brian confirms were there? Were portions of the intact rubber bands hanging out in mid air flopping around joyously where paper money below was missing and had degraded? How far can Tom & Brian stretch credulity? - see photo attached.

And how does Kaye know that the mythical 'intact' bands were still in their proper positions!? Who has Kaye mind melded with for this information? Eight year old Ingram? The rubber band tooth fairy?

*Please notice in my photo I have attempted to place the missing intact rubber bands in their "proper positions" based on my intimate knowledge of wear patterns since I have ridden many pigs and cows and horses in my life and know how $20 bills wear inside my back pocket! Yepper! YeeeHaw!