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Maybe what we need to focus on is how does the money package become a part of the channel bottom sediment to be dredged up at all ? That to me is the hard question.

It's troubling to say the least, but if we can note that the plane crossed upstream from the money find you would think a connection is already present? this is a primary reason I want to see what the money does contained in a bank bag submerged under water.

A small bundle with rubber bands included inside a bank bag. we need to also put a small bundle exposed outside of the bag to show any difference between the two. how can this not not help in trying to establish the possibilities of the dredge involvement, or exclude the possibility?

Will it fade the bills, or cause the ink to blotch, or smear? the speculation can go on another 50 years if we don't try and do something. what can it hurt?


Added: We also can't exclude the possibility of Cooper landing around the Tena bar area.

Will it fade the bills, or cause the ink to blotch, or smear? No.

What if Brian Ingram's parent planted the money at T-Bar and gave very subtle hints to their young boy where to "prepare" a campfire site?

What if the parents found the degraded money somewhere else and wanted to test the waters on third party ownership claims and whether it could be redeemed by an innocent finder?

What better way than to have a child find a small portion of the loot and see what followed?

Crazy idea, and unlikely to be accurate, but I can't see a natural means of transport to the T-Bar money find location so I resort to far out ideas.

Does it strike others as odd that a family would be picnicking by the river on a winter night?

Why is an preparation needed for a campfire on sand. i.e. why was Brian digging at all? Was it windy that night? Was a fire pit needed?

I wonder if other DZ refugees will show up here? Jo cant live without posting so I expect her to arrive soon.

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all good questions - wink wink.

I'm not sure if this term "wiper bar" is used anymore. this is what was in the 24" pipe to stop large debris from getting through. I can't find a reference to that term.

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A wiper bar seems to be just as it is worded, a bar running across the inside of the pipe. possible much different than a screen? we need to contact someone, and get to the bottom of this as well.


Added: the General Construction Company mentioned above is not the same company that did the dredging. this company started in 1996.

"Good enough" days are partly-cloudy with occasional "sun breaks".

That's why they have to add Prozac to the drinking water in your area Bruce. Paradise is only a few hundred miles to the south, but when you are depressed that seems like an infinite distance.

I still think the Ingram DBC money discovery is either incredibly lucky or we don't know all the facts.

I've gone over a lot of material trying to determine if the reports of a debris field of currency chards at T-Bar were accurate. I doubt that the currency debris field actually existed.

I'm really hoping Snowmman will post here, but it's unlikely.

Anyone ever figure out what happened to Farflung? I worry that he died or became seriously ill. Just disappeared completely. I guess prison could account for his absence on the forums but he doesn't strike me as a criminal. I really miss his sophisticated dry-wry wit.

I'm waiting for Jo to arrive here. Doesn't take long for an addict to figure out where to score when the old hood gets shut down. 

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A quick note about Paradise, 3, I understand your governor just imposed a statewide mandatory water reduction of 25%. As much as distain mold, moss, and mushrooms growing everywhere, including inside vehicles, I do relish an occasional shower. And I certainly appreciate other people being able to take a shower, too.

Doesn't it bother you that the guv went to the mountain April 1 for the annual snowpack measurement and there was only dirt where he stood?

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I'm really hoping Snowmman will post here, but it's unlikely.

Maybe there is a middle ground.  We had Tom Kaye make a "special guest star" appearance.   We sent him inquiries for his responses and comments.  His work was appreciated by nearly everyone here and even a brief appearance would be nice.

Kind of like Don Knotts coming back for guest appearances on "The Andy Griffith Show"....Ooooh, maybe asking him to be our Barney Fife is NOT the best analogy.......

Tom will be back. his plate is pretty full now. I've been emailing him over the last month. sometimes he responds once, and other nights we go for a couple hours. I'll ask him to stop by again when he gets some time.

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I'm really hoping Snowmman will post here, but it's unlikely.

Maybe there is a middle ground.  We had Tom Kaye make a "special guest star" appearance.   We sent him inquiries for his responses and comments.  His work was appreciated by nearly everyone here and even a brief appearance would be nice.

Kind of like Don Knotts coming back for guest appearances on "The Andy Griffith Show"....Ooooh, maybe asking him to be our Barney Fife is NOT the best analogy.......

Tom will be back. his plate is pretty full now. I've been emailing him over the last month. sometimes he responds once, and other nights we go for a couple hours. I'll ask him to stop by again when he gets some time.

How will that change: "'package of money of the stated size would be broken into pieces by the auger, before passing through the pipe and being deposited on the beach.'  "

I mean if Tom has a different text or a different translation of the North Sinai Script and early Aramaic than the rest of the world does - bring it on! 

Thgis is NOT about tOM kAYE ANY MORE THAN IT IS ABOUT jO wEBER OR rOBERT m bLEVINS AND FRANKLY GUYS ... I am now on vacatrion. Bring Weber and your other stars here. Bye bye for a while - gone. I am out of here until you people come to your senses. /;

Whatever the details on the dredge, Jack Bechly is very clear:

'package of money of the stated size would be broken into pieces by the auger, before passing through the pipe and being deposited on the beach.' 

1. the package of money  would be broken into pieces by the auger. He does not say would be totally destroyed. And,

2. before passing through the pipe and being deposited on the beach.'. Would pass through the pass. And would be deposited on the beach. Pieces of the money package would show up on the beach.

3. Bechly even specifies the dimensions of the money package in his report, he is talking about: namely a "l2xl6x4 inch package". Those dimensions were given Bechly to consider and report about, by the FBI.

Bechly is saying as clear as day that pieces of a l2xl6x4 inch package of money would pass through the dredge, be broken up, and the pieces would 'pass through the pipe and wind up on the beach'.

Bechly's professional statement is clear as daylight.

With all the conflicting information and opinions on this matter, it’s easy to fall into the trap of “analysis paralysis”.  I’ve seen nothing that has been presented about this subject that would lead me to believe that the money that was found wasn’t laying on the bottom of the Columbia in the bank bag, until it was dredged up and buried in 1974, and then moved to the location it was discovered by heavy erosion, which that area was prone to.
The condition of the money, the location of the find, the fact that three bundles were together and the deteriorated condition of the rubber bands all fit this conclusion, in my opinion.