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How did the money arrive on Tena Bar

River Flooding
1 (5%)
Floated to it's resting spot via Columbia river
2 (10%)
Planted
6 (30%)
Dredge
11 (55%)
tossed in the river in a paper bag
0 (0%)

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Voting closed: August 16, 2016, 09:05:28 AM

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Offline Tom Kaye

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #705 on: February 26, 2015, 11:30:40 PM »
Transcripts and newspaper reports about the rubber bands. 

Read reference #.1 on the Money Find on Citizensleuths.com

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #706 on: February 26, 2015, 11:32:39 PM »
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For the money to land in the Columbia the jump zone would have to be way off.

Carr has stated in the past that the "pressure bump" was felt some time after the oscillation which was where they originally thought Cooper jumped. this would mean the jump was further south than originally thought?
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #707 on: February 26, 2015, 11:36:03 PM »

The "pressure bump" happened at 8:12 or 8:13 depending on who was reporting.  Given the timing of the flight path was correct, it does not put it over the Columbia. Your simulation could either reinforce that or refute it. :)

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #708 on: February 26, 2015, 11:40:07 PM »
What Carr was saying is that the oscillation seems to be recorded, but not the pressure bump. did you find documentation of both?
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #709 on: February 26, 2015, 11:45:45 PM »
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Transcripts and newspaper reports about the rubber bands. 

Read reference #.1 on the Money Find on Citizensleuths.com

TK

By "intact" are you meaning "in place"?

Otherwise I have no more questions!
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #710 on: February 26, 2015, 11:48:56 PM »
Pressure bump was recorded my multiple people listening to the radio chatter.  Can't remember about the oscillations.

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #711 on: February 26, 2015, 11:50:54 PM »

I would think that:  "The money was badly decomposed and was held together with rubber bands which were so old they crumbled away immediately upon handling." means "intact" expecially since they seemed to be on the bundles after Brian picked them up.

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #712 on: February 26, 2015, 11:54:07 PM »
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Pressure bump was recorded my multiple people listening to the radio chatter.  Can't remember about the oscillations.

TK

Here are both transcript entries of the oscillation. (see photo)
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #713 on: February 26, 2015, 11:57:12 PM »
I posted the wrong entry on the first photo.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #714 on: February 27, 2015, 12:06:48 AM »
Scotty was the one he worked with the FBI on the pressure bump issue, including the recreation. Unfortunately, we can't get his input anymore. Did anyone get access to the FBI experiment notes?
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« Reply #715 on: February 27, 2015, 12:29:29 AM »
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Scotty was the one he worked with the FBI on the pressure bump issue, including the recreation. Unfortunately, we can't get his input anymore. Did anyone get access to the FBI experiment notes?

In Richard Tosaw's discussions with Paul Soderlind, Soderlind ALWAYS referred to 8:13 PM as being the jump time.

And based on a number of other considerations, that time would appear to be accurate or within a minute after the jump (which would mean 8:12 PM).
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #716 on: February 27, 2015, 02:45:58 AM »
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Scotty was the one he worked with the FBI on the pressure bump issue, including the recreation. Unfortunately, we can't get his input anymore. Did anyone get access to the FBI experiment notes?

How do you know this?

If by recreation you mean the test flight, that was Anderson, not Scott. Did you know 'Scotty' well? Mrs. Scotty?

What FBI experiment notes? What experiment did the FBI run? If again you are referring to the TEST FLIGHT that was conducted by Air Force and NWA personnel etc. A couple of FBI agents went along for the ride. The FBI didn't have any flight engineers in those days to 'experiment' with anything beyond Beemans? 

 
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #717 on: February 27, 2015, 03:04:45 AM »
At first I thought it was Anderson (the engineer), then I checked with the Wikipedia article and it said Scott was at the controls (and yes, I'm talking about the test flight, which was a practical experiment in throwing stuff out of a 727, relax with the semantics). Wikipedia cites Himmelsbach's book. I'm certain I read somewhere that Anderson was onboard, but can't remember where I saw that. So pardon my unwillingness to check every detail. I took Wikipedia's word on it.

And I assume someone was keeping notes. It's not unreasonable. I mean, there's a report about my dad's unlicensed backyard toolshed at the local Zoning Department, so there has to be detailed documentation on this exper--er-- test flight...
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #718 on: February 27, 2015, 03:07:57 AM »
Rataczak calls Captain Scott "Scotty" in his DVD talk, sorry I picked up on it. I'll try to be more accurate in the future.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #719 on: February 27, 2015, 01:43:33 PM »
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Rataczak calls Captain Scott "Scotty" in his DVD talk, sorry I picked up on it. I'll try to be more accurate in the future.

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