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There's one thing that lends credence to some of the Ingram testimony, the presence of rubber band remnants. The Ingrams would have had no idea that the money was bundled with rubber bands (instead of bank paper). So them saying there were fragments on the bills (unless Big H prompted them on this) suggests at least parts of their story are true.

Something that needs to be done with respect to the money find is more experiments. We have no idea how a bag of money moves underneath the Columbia. We have no idea how long it takes money to fuse in a wet environment. We have no idea how long it takes those microbes to eat holes in the money. We have no idea how long it takes the outer edges of the money to disintegrate like the Tbar money has. Unfortunately, all of these experiments requires a lot of time.

It was brought up many times over the years to do an experiment with the money but nothing was ever done. we would have data by now. 5$ from 10 posters would of gave a $50 bundle to bury.

Tom Kaye has done some burying experiments which are described on his web page.

And while Kaye gave us a good idea on how long the rubber bands would last, and effectively debunked the "Washougal" nonsense, his experiments stopped short of telling us any information about how the money would fuse together, how changing environments would effect the money, and about a half dozen other problems.

I just wish he would of done a bundle test vs clippings of currency.

There's one thing that lends credence to some of the Ingram testimony, the presence of rubber band remnants. The Ingrams would have had no idea that the money was bundled with rubber bands (instead of bank paper). So them saying there were fragments on the bills (unless Big H prompted them on this) suggests at least parts of their story are true.

Something that needs to be done with respect to the money find is more experiments. We have no idea how a bag of money moves underneath the Columbia. We have no idea how long it takes money to fuse in a wet environment. We have no idea how long it takes those microbes to eat holes in the money. We have no idea how long it takes the outer edges of the money to disintegrate like the Tbar money has. Unfortunately, all of these experiments requires a lot of time.

good points -

As we know, Tosaw conducted searches upstream of Tina Bar and the Ingram find, on the hope more money and even Cooper artifacts might be hung up at some wing dam or cul de sac. Except for something judged to be a flare parachute, found near at a wingdam upstream from Tina Bar (and turned in to the FBI), nothing of consequence was found by Tosaw and his divers.

Curiously, Tosaw never searched 'downstream' of Tina Bar, even in areas directly connected to the Tina Bar money site by flow. Immediately down stream of the Tina Bar find would seem to be the obvious place to search? If the money survived to flow and wind up on Tina Bar, why not just a bit further down stream in an obvious catch basin?

[edit] My theory is if the money arrived via flow, then there is a positive probability that money settled out at more than one location, in-line with the same flow (event). If the money arrived by mechanical means and got buried, then it should be in one primary location only. Since we don't have data from searches downstream of the Ingram find, we really don't know - can't decide. Maybe the area downstream of Tina Bar could still be searched?  It should have been looked at in 1980 or by Tosaw later?

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As we know, Tosaw conducted searches upstream of Tina Bar and the Ingram find, on the hope more money and even Cooper artifacts might be hung up at some wing dam or cul de sac. Except for something judged to be a flare parachute, found near at a wingdam upstream from Tina Bar (and turned in to the FBI), nothing of consequence was found by Tosaw and his divers.

Curiously, Tosaw never searched 'downstream' of Tina Bar, even in areas directly connected to the Tina Bar money site by flow. Immediately down stream of the Tina Bar find would seem to be the obvious place to search? If the money survived to flow and wind up on Tina Bar, why not just a bit further down stream in an obvious catch basin?

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The photo in question was probably made about the time of Tom Kaye's visit to Tina Bar with Larry Carr.  Note the ship at anchor in the lower left hand corner.  That appears to be the "Hong Kong" ship that appears in some pictures related to the visit mentioned.

I think the riverbed is much like a tainted crime scene, or disturbed. it's been compromised many times over with dredging. I don't know if anything of value is left? even if something was there I'm guessing it would be covered making it even harder to find. NMIwrecks would have a better answer on this.

I just received word from Tom Kaye. he is extremely busy at the moment. he said if people have questions, he will pop on and answer them. perhaps we should gather some information to post for him....(questions)