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How did the money arrive on Tena Bar

River Flooding
1 (5%)
Floated to it's resting spot via Columbia river
2 (10%)
Planted
6 (30%)
Dredge
11 (55%)
tossed in the river in a paper bag
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: August 16, 2016, 09:05:28 AM

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #6000 on: March 20, 2021, 10:04:14 AM »
Money and reserve.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #6001 on: March 20, 2021, 10:05:17 AM »
The above pic shows the money properly sized in a Size H bag next to a reserve.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #6002 on: March 20, 2021, 10:08:48 AM »
OK, now I am less concerned about the size of the money bag and more interested in how you got your hands on $200,000 in cash.  :rofl:
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #6003 on: March 20, 2021, 10:10:21 AM »
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OK, now I am less concerned about the size of the money bag and more interested in how you got your hands on $200,000 in cash.  :rofl:

I have a friend, you may have heard of him, DB Cooper.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #6004 on: March 20, 2021, 10:15:25 AM »
Another pic:
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #6005 on: March 20, 2021, 10:15:40 AM »
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OK, now I am less concerned about the size of the money bag and more interested in how you got your hands on $200,000 in cash.  :rofl:

I have a friend, you may have heard of him, DB Cooper.
Never heard of him.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #6006 on: March 20, 2021, 03:18:56 PM »
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Money and reserve.

That reserve is about the size of a standard backpack. Ive always wondered how Cooper planned to get the money into a backpack? Doesn't seem large enough to me. I guess a backpack vs money bags will bulge and spread out? I see kids every day with back packs full of books and whatever. Books dont compress. A backpack or chute container would present a different shape vs a money bag, and be far easier to transport ?   

In addition I dont know how you would tie off the top of a bag sack, with any degree of confidence?  Someone has already suggested you would have to take a knife and poke holes in the top of the sack then pass a line through the holes to any degree of secure closure? A chute container is far more accommodating with better options.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #6007 on: March 20, 2021, 03:57:17 PM »
Eric is suggesting only a portion was placed in the dummy chute.
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #6008 on: March 20, 2021, 03:59:04 PM »
One chute is already open. no signs of opening a second chute..the contents of the briefcase could of been removed and used for the extra money, if the bag is the right size. the briefcase is basically, extra luggage....
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #6009 on: March 20, 2021, 04:05:51 PM »
Remember, Tina reported seeing DBC put money into one of the reserves.

Now it has been assumed that DBC was attempting to pack ALL of the money into the reserve, but you can see from my picture above that this doesn't make sense because the bank bag is significantly larger than the reserve. The size difference is clear to see when they're side-by-side.

This is why I believe what Tina actually witnessed was DBC putting SOME of the money into the reserve. This would be the overflow money.

Again, the dummy reserve is gone. DBC took it for a reason. And given the attempt to load cash into one of the reserves...in my mind it seems likely that it was the dummy reserve.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #6010 on: March 20, 2021, 04:06:45 PM »
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Money and reserve.

That reserve is about the size of a standard backpack. Ive always wondered how Cooper planned to get the money into a backpack? Doesn't seem large enough to me. I guess a backpack vs money bags will bulge and spread out? I see kids every day with back packs full of books and whatever. Books dont compress. A backpack or chute container would present a different shape vs a money bag, and be far easier to transport ?   

In addition I dont know how you would tie off the top of a bag sack, with any degree of confidence?  Someone has already suggested you would have to take a knife and poke holes in the top of the sack then pass a line through the holes to any degree of secure closure? A chute container is far more accommodating with better options.

A reserve container does not have as much volume as you apparently believe.  Again, the money could have been securely tied in the bag that it was delivered in and secured to the parachute harness with the shroud lines that Cooper cut. 

If Cooper emptied the missing reserve, then what did he do with its contents?  He probably would have left them on the plane with the other opened reserve.

If Cooper jumped with just a single back parachute and the money bag tied to him and the harness, I think he would have had a better chance of survival than if he had two bags tied to himself.
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #6011 on: March 20, 2021, 04:08:52 PM »
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Remember, Tina reported seeing DBC put money into one of the reserves.

"trying" to put the money into the chute or container and decided not to. I'll have to check to be accurate.
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #6012 on: March 20, 2021, 04:14:22 PM »
My point SHUTTER is that I know what the files say, but just as they assume that he was trying to put all of the money in the reserve--which I'm arguing cannot possibly be accurate--they also incorrectly assumed that he gave up on it.

The files clearly state that Tina wasn't paying much attention to what DBC was doing but picked up some of it here and there.

This is why I'm saying that what I think actually happened is that the overflow went into the dummy reserve. Again, the dummy reserve is gone. Why?
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #6013 on: March 20, 2021, 04:28:19 PM »
how do you know he didn't know it was a dummy chute. how do we know he didn't attached it somehow.

saying she saw him putting money in the chute is taken out of context. she states he was opening the chute and described it as pink. that's not just glancing or not paying attention. she then states he was attempting to to put it into the container and trying to attach it to himself. only one chute is known to have been open. no evidence has surfaced other wise. like the flight path, no evidence? a lot of cord was cut.

It does appear he left behind what he didn't want or used. the bomb would be a mistake with to much involved leaving connections to him. the back pack wasn't needed so he left it. the tie had no value to him or the FBI in 1971 making it hard to track back to him. you would think the same for the second reserve unless he tossed it or used it thinking it was good and attached it using the cord. that's a stretch though. he could of done the same with the first chute?

Why open another one?
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #6014 on: March 20, 2021, 04:32:22 PM »
Question for jumpers (dudeman R99) what happens when you pull the ripcord on the ground. will it open up causing the chute to come out, or can you contain it enough to put money into the container and close it backup replacing the ripcord?