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How did the money arrive on Tena Bar

River Flooding
1 (5%)
Floated to it's resting spot via Columbia river
2 (10%)
Planted
6 (30%)
Dredge
11 (55%)
tossed in the river in a paper bag
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: August 16, 2016, 09:05:28 AM

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5970 on: March 20, 2021, 12:37:53 AM »
Sorry, Georger. I'm not following. Did Tina ever report seeing Cooper tie the bank bag on him? Or only seeing him trying to fit the money in the chute pack?
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5971 on: March 20, 2021, 01:33:05 AM »
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Cooper used shroud line to create a belt around his waist. I believe he used this belt to attach the bank bag, the dummy reserve (holding 50K), and the attache' case. This means everything Cooper would have been jumping with was attached to this belt made of shroud line and the items would have been hanging in front of his crotch and thighs just like military jumpers and smoke jumpers.

Do you have a theory as to why he would take everything with him? For instance, if all the money fit into the bag and the reserve, is there a reason why he would take the briefcase with him as opposed to just pitching it out the back?

Would all the money (or how much of it would) fit into the briefcase if he pitched the 'bomb' contents?

The overall point being, if all the money fit into one or two of those containers, is there a reason he would encumber himself with all three items?

Simply put, the attache' case is evidence.

The attache' case was reported as looking inexpensive, but new. Therefore, it reasonable to deduce that DBC considered it a treasure trove of evidence if the authorities were to get a hold of it.

I believe that the attache' case walked out of the drop zone with the money.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5972 on: March 20, 2021, 01:33:40 AM »
Did you get my photo?
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5973 on: March 20, 2021, 01:36:25 AM »
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I have attached a picture of a vintage Size H bank bag. Is this what you are referring to, EU? This seems small. It is listed as 29” long and 14” wide and it states that i can hold “twelve bundles of currency”. I don’t want to get caught in the crossfire of the “Bundle-Packet War”, so I won’t speculate how much money that is.

At any rate, if this is the same Size H bank bag then I think it would be too small?



Yes this is the bank bag--it is standardized. It is the perfect size. The next size up is  considerably larger. Consider the size of the ransom itself and how it fits into the bag.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5974 on: March 20, 2021, 01:37:41 AM »
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Did you get my photo?

Yes I did. It'a a very cool photo. He appears too young. But then again I'm 55.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5975 on: March 20, 2021, 01:47:10 AM »
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I have attached a picture of a vintage Size H bank bag. Is this what you are referring to, EU? This seems small. It is listed as 29” long and 14” wide and it states that i can hold “twelve bundles of currency”. I don’t want to get caught in the crossfire of the “Bundle-Packet War”, so I won’t speculate how much money that is.

At any rate, if this is the same Size H bank bag then I think it would be too small?



Yes this is the bank bag--it is standardized. It is the perfect size. The next size up is  considerably larger. Consider the size of the ransom itself and how it fits into the bag.
It says that a bank bundle of twenties would equal 100 bills or $2000. That would require 100 bundles. This bag only holds 12.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5976 on: March 20, 2021, 02:08:44 AM »
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I have attached a picture of a vintage Size H bank bag. Is this what you are referring to, EU? This seems small. It is listed as 29” long and 14” wide and it states that i can hold “twelve bundles of currency”. I don’t want to get caught in the crossfire of the “Bundle-Packet War”, so I won’t speculate how much money that is.

At any rate, if this is the same Size H bank bag then I think it would be too small?



Yes this is the bank bag--it is standardized. It is the perfect size. The next size up is  considerably larger. Consider the size of the ransom itself and how it fits into the bag.
It says that a bank bundle of twenties would equal 100 bills or $2000. That would require 100 bundles. This bag only holds 12.

There was quite a bit of discussion on this thread some time back about the volume of 10,000 bills.  As I remember it, the volume was not extremely big.
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5977 on: March 20, 2021, 02:13:08 AM »
But this bag specifically only holds 12 bundles. Cooper would have had 100. Unless I'm missing something, the $200,000 in twenties wouldn't fit in a two foot by one foot bag.
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« Reply #5978 on: March 20, 2021, 02:17:21 AM »
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But this bag specifically only holds 12 bundles. Cooper would have had 100. Unless I'm missing something, the $200,000 in twenties wouldn't fit in a two foot by one foot bag.

If the bag had three dimensions, like a paper grocery bag, it would be about the right size.
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5979 on: March 20, 2021, 02:19:24 AM »
But this bag specifically only fits 12 bundles. Cooper had 100. Volume doesn't matter. It fits what it can fit.

You can't fit 10 pounds of shit into a 5 pound bag...
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« Reply #5980 on: March 20, 2021, 02:22:05 AM »
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But this bag specifically only fits 12 bundles. Cooper had 100. Volume doesn't matter. It fits what it can fit.

You can't fit 10 pounds of shit into a 5 pound bag...

You have got the wrong bag.  All the money was in the bag that was delivered to Cooper.
 

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« Reply #5981 on: March 20, 2021, 02:25:41 AM »
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But this bag specifically only fits 12 bundles. Cooper had 100. Volume doesn't matter. It fits what it can fit.

You can't fit 10 pounds of shit into a 5 pound bag...

You have got the wrong bag.  All the money was in the bag that was delivered to Cooper.
I don't have the wrong bag. Eric Ulis has the wrong bag. He stated it was a Size H. This is a Size H. Size H is too small.

That's my point.
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« Reply #5982 on: March 20, 2021, 02:30:32 AM »
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But this bag specifically only fits 12 bundles. Cooper had 100. Volume doesn't matter. It fits what it can fit.

You can't fit 10 pounds of shit into a 5 pound bag...

You have got the wrong bag.  All the money was in the bag that was delivered to Cooper.
I don't have the wrong bag. Eric Ulis has the wrong bag. He stated it was a Size H. This is a Size H. Size H is too small.

That's my point.

Agreed. 

Shutter, do you have the size and thickness of dollar bills somewhere on this site?
 

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #5983 on: March 20, 2021, 02:51:10 AM »
In case anyone is wondering, the attached link shows what $200,000 in $20 bills looks like.

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P.S. I don’t know the story behind this, I just found the photos interesting.
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« Reply #5984 on: March 20, 2021, 02:58:45 AM »
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In case anyone is wondering, the attached link shows what $200,000 in $20 bills looks like.

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P.S. I don’t know the story behind this, I just found the photos interesting.

Chaucer, I think you just posted a link to a porn site.  Do you remember what problems DZ was experiencing several months ago?