FLYJACK, you keep saying that I dont understand what you are saying: I do understand what you're saying.  It is what you are saying that I object to.

You keep citing H and Pringle and 302s etc but in none of those documents that use the word "packet" does anyone explain what a packet is! Only you are defining what a packet is and that is the whole problem! You arent entitled to make up your own evidence, define it, and tell us what a packet is. You first told us a packet was a formal banking term. I proved you a liar. Then you dropped the banking angle quietly (as if you had never said that) and went directly to telling us again what a packet is. YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO MAKE UP YOUR OWN DEFINITIONS OF WORDS OTHER PEOPLE USE! 

Since you havent presented one iota of evidence as to what a packet is, but you keep saying Carr was wrong because he said "bundles" ... why dont you get a banker to issue a statement telling the world what a packet is ? Anything other than you making things up and passing it off as fact.

Your argument cannot be based on something only you alone declare.

You say the money was packed by a banker in "packets" strapped with paper straps, and these packets were then grouped into a unit and wrapped with a rubber band. There is no 302 or any other document that confirms that! ONLY YOU SAY THAT! Frankly, who the fuck are you ? 

Until you talk to the same people Carr talked to several times, you are not entitled to call Carr wrong. You dont even know what Carr was told or the people Carr talked to. You are just cherry picking a few documents which use the same word "packet" you already chose and defined on your own whether it has anything to do with the Cooper case or not. You just dont want to lose the game! You will argue until the other side just gives up... whether you are right or wrong. You will go on to the next issue you can score points with ...   

Maybe. If the flight path was to the west - which it’s not. Or if we knew for sure he jumped at 8:13 - which we don’t.

I really don’t want to go round and round on this. I’ve said what I said.

I’m tired. Believe whatever you want...

FLYJACK, you keep posting a Carr quote that fits your narrative, but you ignore the OTHER CARR QUOTE which does not fit your narrative!

This is just another example of your cherry-picking. Here the quotes are!

FJ for Carr: "The money was packaged in varying amounts, so one bundle would have $500.00 another $1,000.00, there was no uniformity to it. I have been searching for the evidence report from the lab but have not found it yet, lots of files to go through. When I get it you'll be the second to know."
Carr: The funds that were given to Cooper were not pulled from their circulating cash but from a security fund that was prepackaged for these types of incidents. This money was not strapped because the bank did not want any subjects to know where it came from so it was packaged with rubber bands.

Carr himself:  Carr: The funds that were given to Cooper were not pulled from their circulating cash but from a security fund that was prepackaged for these types of incidents. This money was not strapped because the bank did not want any subjects to know where it came from so it was packaged with rubber bands.


NO PAPER STRAPS!

NO PACKETS VS BUNDLES

FBI 302s also use the words parcels and packages. Please tell us how you and the banking industry define those terms! Are paper bands and rubber bands used on "parcels" and "packages" ?

Your original claim "bundles" and "packets" are official banking terms, as used by H and Pringle, is FALSE. It's apparent you dont know any more about how the bills were packed for Cooper than Brian Ingram does! But, you will keep pushing your narrative until Hell freezes over until in the quiet of some night you find it convenient to change it to something else. Cooper forums are full of that!   

Here's a photo of "chaos" going on at Tina Bar. Using this photo of chaos the guy at DZ has now certified Palmer was right.  All frags found were part of the Ingram packet bundles. The chaos evident in this photo proves it!

Could diatoms on the Cooper money also be due to "chaos" ?   

Oh! Now I remember why I posted!  That means the serial number G21056376B is the result of teleportation due to chaos. The guy says. You can see teleportation moving frags to new places due to chaos. The guy sees it. You should be able to see it too, or there is something wrong with you!   

FJ continues his attack at DZ. But, I did something today Ive never done before. I Googled the word BUNDLE, and guess what came up. An exact picture of the money format FJ claims the Cooper bills were packaged in. "Bundle" turns out to be a formal Federal Reserve term ie. a money packaging model, identical to the model FJ is using. Except for one thing, a "bundle" consists of "straps" instead of what FJ is calling "packets".  See the Federal Reserve photo below. Is it possible this Federal Reserve "bundle" is the basis for FJ's claim concerning the form Seafirst was holding its special fund money in, and used in preparing money for Cooper ? Because there is no document that is claiming what FJ is claiming.

The Federal Reserve defines a "bundle" of money as:

'There are exactly 1,000 $100 bills in a bundle. According to Federal Reserve Bank Services, a bundle is comprised of 10 currency straps of 100 bills each for all bills greater than $1. A currency strap of $100 bills is worth $10,000 and a 10-strap bundle totals $100,000. A bundle consists of 1,000 notes of the same denomination in ten equal straps of 100 notes each.'  This is the same model FJ is using.

In addition, a Federal Reserve "bundle" uses paper straps, which is what FJ is claiming the Seafirst bank used on its Cooper money.

Why would FJ conflate these terms and charge Ckret with "getting it wrong" claiming that a "bundle" is something other than what Larry was describing ! ?  Is this the whole basis for FJ saying "Carr got it wrong" ?

The Federal Reserve "bundle" is identical to FLYJACK'S Cooper bundle. 

Doesn't FJ accept, or believe, that the special fund Seafirst used had all of its paper straps removed? The bills were run through a counter and assembled into groups bound with rubber bands at the end of the belt at Seafirst, using its special fund set aside for emergencies! Evidently FJ doesn't believe it happened that way. He is unwilling to accept anyone else's version of what happened. His own uses the Federal Reserve model as his reference point ! In short, the Fed Reserve photo of a bundle is not how we are told the Cooper was was prepared, from bills that not even "bundled" with straps in the first place!

Moreover, the Federal Reserve definition of a BUNDLE calls its components STRAPS, not PACKETS!     

Was there more than 100 rubber banded bills in the bag? I'm not even sure who this would fool to begin with. who wouldn't think the law wouldn't mark or copy the serial numbers? should be pretty basic knowledge they wouldn't just give money away that can't be tracked?

Was there more than 100 rubber banded bills in the bag? I'm not even sure who this would fool to begin with. who wouldn't think the law wouldn't mark or copy the serial numbers? should be pretty basic knowledge they wouldn't just give money away that can't be tracked?

Depends on how the money was packaged. Total amount 200k. I thought Carr solved this issue years ago. That was pre Flyjack. Now I dont know. 

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Was there more than 100 rubber banded bills in the bag? I'm not even sure who this would fool to begin with. who wouldn't think the law wouldn't mark or copy the serial numbers? should be pretty basic knowledge they wouldn't just give money away that can't be tracked?

Depends on how the money was packaged. Total amount 200k. I thought Carr solved this issue years ago. That was pre Flyjack. Now I dont know.

My point was the bundles being different amounts would call for more bundles vs 100 bundles at 2k each. Cooper pulled out 3 "packets" banded together to give the stew, or two, maybe four "packets" banded together?

Speaking with Eric this evening we agreed that Brian probably can't go into details about this..8 years old and 50 years ago..long time. still worth getting everything he remembers..