Even with the recent video about the money find you can clearly see debris all over the beach.

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Tosaw believed there was a good chance Cooper had landed in the Columbia itself.

I follow the same ideals as Tosaw. it could be just that easy that he went into the Columbia, or at least the money did.

Cooper going into the Columbia closer to Portland is the most likely scenario, I was looking at a lake/swamp possibility because the evidence may still be there... if he went into the Columbia the chances of finding any evidence is tiny.

Would modern sonar scan find anything in the Columbia??  I thought that if there were a possible search "premise" established either in a lake/swamp or perhaps a modern sonar scan of the Columbia between TBAR and Portland that an internet crowdfunding campaign could easily raise the money.. maybe 30-50 grand??

Would a modern sonar scan of the Columbia be worthwhile??

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Even with the recent video about the money find you can clearly see debris all over the beach.

If it was Brian's mother saying it, I would be more inclined to believe it. She has always struck me as being the most "objective" person involved and of course she was an adult at the time. She has always impressed me favorably, but that's just a personal opinion.

None of the agents I've spoken to mentioned debris gathered in one area, and I think they would have noticed that.

I wonder what kind of debris Brian was talking about?

 

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When Brian signed up for this site (I think he only posted once), did he attach an email address?  I know he doesn't read this all the time, but I wonder if he'd agree to check in for a week or so and answer questions.

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Tosaw believed there was a good chance Cooper had landed in the Columbia itself.

I follow the same ideals as Tosaw. it could be just that easy that he went into the Columbia, or at least the money did.

Cooper going into the Columbia closer to Portland is the most likely scenario, I was looking at a lake/swamp possibility because the evidence may still be there... if he went into the Columbia the chances of finding any evidence is tiny.

Would modern sonar scan find anything in the Columbia??  I thought that if there were a possible search "premise" established either in a lake/swamp or perhaps a modern sonar scan of the Columbia between TBAR and Portland that an internet crowdfunding campaign could easily raise the money.. maybe 30-50 grand??

Would a modern sonar scan of the Columbia be worthwhile??

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I think he is talking about something like side scan sonar. something that can see the river bottom....

Yes, the newest side scan 3D technology,

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I think he is talking about something like side scan sonar. something that can see the river bottom....

Yes, the newest side scan 3D technology,

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Good luck finding a scan of the Tina Bar area with that technology. Several people photographed the bottom in the area around Catapillar Island up to Tina Bar ... remarkably smooth bottom with very little debris. Those photos and discussions occurred in our "hate-based" posts on the Dropzone! Cameron/Georger/etal.  Just do a search at DZ.

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I think he is talking about something like side scan sonar. something that can see the river bottom....

Yes, the newest side scan 3D technology,

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Good luck finding a scan of the Tina Bar area with that technology.

I know it doesn't exist, but since the technology has advanced greatly, my question was,, would it be worthwhile to scan it today with the new tech??

Well, who knows ... if you can justify the cost. Tosaw would do it in a heartbeat!    I would be right there on the boat with him if I could be!    So would a lot of other people...  funny. You might be overrun with FBI guys wanting on!    I could get a hundred people to sign up for that gig! The question is, is there anything there after all this time and where exactly to look. You would be forced to start with widefield scans simply to develop targets ... but if you know some enterprising guys with time on their hands and the right gear/software GO FOR IT! I would do this in a second if I was 20 years old.

We had every intention of starting with bathymetry of this whole area early in the existence of the team. Before Tom was a member. One person at the USGS started a search of existing bathymetry ... then things came up ... then it went on the back burner intending to come back to it ... then Tom was asked in and we decided to let Tom run with his work ... we just never got back to the bathymetry.

But if you know some enterprising guys that are up to this job and the financial side works... turn them lose. You will probably have critics jump up saying its a total waste of time after all these years, but you don't know until you look.  Believe me: there are worse things in life to waste time and money on. 

[edit] Since nobody has posted I will add this. I think your idea of using cadaver dogs around Smith Lake and in areas like the Shillapoo Wildlife Area may have a higher value, but that's just my opinion. Again, so much time has passed. Time is your main enemy. 

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I think he is talking about something like side scan sonar. something that can see the river bottom....

Yes, the newest side scan 3D technology,

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Good luck finding a scan of the Tina Bar area with that technology.

I know it doesn't exist, but since the technology has advanced greatly, my question was,, would it be worthwhile to scan it today with the new tech??

Well, who knows ... if you can justify the cost. Tosaw would do it in a heartbeat!    I would be right there on the boat with him if I could be!    So would a lot of other people...  funny. You might be overrun with FBI guys wanting on!    I could get a hundred people to sign up for that gig! The question is, is there anything there after all this time and where exactly to look. You would be forced to start with widefield scans simply to develop targets ... but if you know some enterprising guys with time on their hands and the right gear/software GO FOR IT! I would do this in a second if I was 20 years old.

We had every intention of starting with bathymetry of this whole area early in the existence of the team. Before Tom was a member. One person at the USGS started a search of existing bathymetry ... then things came up ... then it went on the back burner intending to come back to it ... then Tom was asked in and we decided to let Tom run with his work ... we just never got back to the bathymetry.

But if you know some enterprising guys that are up to this job and the financial side works... turn them lose. You will probably have critics jump up saying its a total waste of time after all these years, but you don't know until you look.  Believe me: there are worse things in life to waste time and money on. 

[edit] Since nobody has posted I will add this. I think your idea of using cadaver dogs around Smith Lake and in areas like the Shillapoo Wildlife Area may have a higher value, but that's just my opinion. Again, so much time has passed. Time is your main enemy.

My idea, granted off the cuff at this point was this,, "Do a crowd funding campaign, with the high profile of the DB Cooper case, I have no doubt you could raise enough money to do a new sonar scan with the newer 3d tech and throw in the cadaver dog search", (5000 people x $20 = $100,000). Combine the power of interwebs with new sonar tech and cadaver dog training, things that weren't available years ago,   

Could it be justified or worthwhile??? Is there a case for it?  Raising the money would be the easy part.. A crowd funding campaign is easy once you have a plan and business "case".

Another possibility, film it for Television and monetize the search.