It’s also possible that “human error” did NOT occur, and that the flight path is an ironclad fact.

FACT:

1. The flight path is accurate.

2. The plan flew over the Columbia.

3. The money was found buried in the sand on the riverbank upstream.

Any reasonable person would conclude that the best way to triangulate this fact is that the money ended up in the river where the plane went over and the river then transported the money to Tena Bar.

When you start de-valuing basic facts of the case such as the flight path, the witness descriptions, etc. then you can start making ANY claims to meet ANY end.

This is the same flawed logic that led to the Washougal Washdown Theory.

After all, how dare we question the veracity of a report written by the esteemed Dr. Leonard Palmer? Who is Eric Ulis to do such a thing?

Likewise, how dare we to question the veracity of the FBI Flight Path drafted by...well we really don't know by who or how? Who is Eric Ulis to do such a thing?

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GEORGER, if I'm walking through the woods somewhere and find a broken watch sitting on the ground, I can reasonably deduce that the watch ended up there because some guy walked by with the watch and dropped it there. That is the easiest explanation for how the watch got there. That is a fact.

Now if you want to believe that the watched got swept up by a tornado which then dropped the watch onto a passing eagle, who then balanced it on his back while he flew 20 miles north into the woods, then have it.

The moral of my story: You have to consider what you found and where.

Well, the truth is our METHODS are entirely different.  Different conclusions are INEVITABLE.  There cant be any agreement because our METHODS are entirely different.

GEORGER, on this point, we totally agree.

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GEORGER, if I'm walking through the woods somewhere and find a broken watch sitting on the ground, I can reasonably deduce that the watch ended up there because some guy walked by with the watch and dropped it there. That is the easiest explanation for how the watch got there. That is a fact.

Now if you want to believe that the watched got swept up by a tornado which then dropped the watch onto a passing eagle, who then balanced it on his back while he flew 20 miles north into the woods, then have it.

The moral of my story: You have to consider what you found and where.

Well, the truth is our METHODS are entirely different.  Different conclusions are INEVITABLE.  There cant be any agreement because our METHODS are entirely different.

GEORGER, on this point, we totally agree.

Well thats good of you! I had a Welch nanny back in the 40s & 50s that told (taught) me that the reason we see the Moon is because it's on fire! "How else would we see it?" she reasoned. That woman lived to 101 years. She had a coal miner cousin who died on the Titanic. Before she moved to my hometown she lived at Saskatoon, Sas. I loved our discussions and learned a lot from her!   

She reasoned that the red Harvest Moon (larger in the sky) was red because the Moon was running out of coal and someday its coal supply would be completely burned - and we on Earth would never see the Moon again. I asked her how far away the Moon was. She said 'somewhere between five and fifty miles'.

I love it, "somewhere between five and fifty miles."

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Human error DID occur. It's all through the files. It's in the Palmer Report.

That said, physics and science do not lie. They are never wrong.

The physics involved with the three packets staying together yet separating from the other 97 packets and everything else that completely went missing, then somehow floating downstream on a branch or something--but only in June--and then burying itself for eight years is impossible. Does anyone really believe this can be replicated?

It's simple. The money was buried by a human being, left behind, and discovered eight years later.

Is 'everything' that is buried at TBar, buried by a human being? No.

Are you saying Nature does not bury things? That according 'your version of Physics' three bundles of money 'cannot be naturally buried at Tina Bar'. ! ?

Put a bag of cash in the Columbia River near PDX and let's see what happens. Oh wait, it can't be put in the river because diatoms from only June are on the money.

So let's put the money near the Columbia River by PDX and see what happens.

This would be useless because you would never be able to replicate the hundreds and perhaps thousands of variables that could have acted on that money to bringing it to Tena Bar.

Currents
Boat traffic and wake
Weather conditions
Flooding
Animals

The list goes on and on. Nature is unpredictable and capricious - especially along a major river.

Eric, I applaud your efforts in looking for clues outside the search area. absolutely nothing wrong with that at all. just keep in mind that we all question the FBI and we all question each other. hopefully, we can continue these debates the way we have been lately. nothing is written in stone with a lot of this case.

I will do what ever I can to help if anything is needed. if nothing pans out, then so be it. we move on to something else to try and find answers. we all know things are wrong somewhere. finding them is the challenge.

I don't mind the debate...although sometimes I find it frustrating.

Grabbing some samples from Tena Bar should supply some solid scientific evidence--at least about the ability of diatoms to migrate down in the sand. Who knows, maybe something else can be learned too.

Taking some measurements will be enlightening too.

One thing I teased earlier was the possibility of knowing precisely where the attache' case is or was. I plan on seeing that through while I'm in Washington State as well. The upside, I find the attache' case. The downside, I find nothing at all.

One thing I can say with certainty, being on the ground and taking in the environment and surroundings is priceless. Looking at and considering things from afar in a theoretical realm is helpful. That said, there is no replacement for being on the ground.

Tom asked me to dig down and grab some sand from the money find spot. So it's not really a core sample.

What I'll probably do is grab samples from 6 inches down, 1 foot down and 2 feet down. If Tom is right there should be no diatoms at all.

Also I'm grabbing a sample from the clay layer which can be seen given the erosion.

In fact, I have a Spec Delivery box of TBar area sand samples taken at different locations, sitting in a closet at my office.

Does anyone want the box?      

* sand samples were taken clear up to a wing dam north of the Ingram site, and south to  Caterpillar island