How do we know for a fact any dredge material prior to 1974 or 71 remains on the beach...this was why I was wondering if the Fazio's could explain anything in detail..some sort of time table is required to know when the dredge material will be non-existent. if large portions are found above the tideline how did it get there. the Fazio's claim the spreading was nowhere near the location. this is why I have said over the years that something is wrong somewhere. the 74 material shouldn't be that deep that far up the beach, right?

Could material from a decade past remain and that's what they found thinking it was the 74 material?

I dont know. I wasnt there.

All I have are USCE/USGS references in the Transcript Kaye and I received.

I do know the Coopermoney was found in the upper cross bedded layer noted by Palmer. That is a fact, I guess. Maybe tomorrow Fkyjack will come up with an article saying the Coopermoney was actually found in Iceland. Anything is possible on DB Cooper forums. 

A dredge layer 2' to 4' thick. I assume the 4 foot is near the money level. that's a shitload of material to "wash" up above the tide isn't it? it appears to me that it would have to be placed there manually, no? they identified dredge material..I'm guessing it would be like gold. it all looks the same. I don't think it has a serial number on it..will it survive that long on the beach? I'm skeptical but something is wrong somewhere.....

I was under the impression that the dredge had a daily log book that recorded their daily activities?

I'm not sure he stated aluminum cans..Coors had aluminum cans in 1959 and by the late 60's soda can started using aluminum..

I was under the impression that the dredge had a daily log book that recorded their daily activities?

I'm not sure how the Corps. works but a business will typically keep paperwork for 7 years by law. a record is somewhere as I mentioned Fly posted a chart showing the years but not sure how far back..they will keep a master record of this I'm sure. 

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This is why I'm suggesting that Palmer identified an earlier dredge. There were no--as in zero, nada, no can do--high water events from the August 1974 dredge and the money find in February 1980.

Therefore, how did the spoils get to the money find spot? The Fazio's didn't do it. I'm sure it didn't walk up on its own. Oh , by the way, how does this happen while the beach is actually eroding sand, not acquiring sand.

May I suggest that the only possible way is that the spoils were placed there directly during a previous dredging operation? Again, sometime between July 1968 when the beach looked anemic, and the skyjacking in November 1971.

The only thing that the aerial photos prove is how the beach looked on the day the pictures were taken.  The beach could look entirely different a couple of days later if someone dumped some more sand on it.  And it almost definitely looked different in the years between the photos.

Lewis and Clark went by Tina Bar 200+ years ago and I am sure they would not recognize it today.

I remember seeing a comment that Palmer found some aluminum soda cans in the top layers that were not "rusted".  Just exactly when did aluminum start rusting in the first place?  And I doubt very much if an aluminum can will float unless someone empties it first then seals the opening.  My guess is that cans were trash left by the fishermen.

Agree totally ... very good comment and true!!  That sandbar changes daily. Good call R99.   

If he hasnt already denied saying it, Flyjax says it was some USCE guy who identified the dredging layer(s) at Tina Bar. !  Not sure how this works. Palmer identified other layers, or none?, some USGE guy identified the dredging spoil, maybe others layers too?, Palmer was taking a cigarette break?,  .... only FJ knows! This is all very important to Flyjax, somehow.

FJ says: " and Himmelsbach confirms the Corps of Engineers was on site... Now, Palmer and the Corps of Engineers, Himmelsbach and the media need to be discredited.. good luck. "

Fly then posts two article which dont say a word about WHO identified the strata layer or the dredging layer .... but .....................

Andrade now adds his voice to this.

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"I forget his name, but it was a young hydrologist working for the Army Corps of Engineers that the FBI brought in. He's still alive, I tried contacting him through his office with no luck. He has a LinkedIn acct... PM if you want and I can find his name again. "

So, apparently Andrade knows all about this too. Even has the name of the USCE guy who was at Tina Bar who identified the dredging layers (for Palmer)?

What was Palmer doing while this USCE guy was running around identifying strata for the FBI and Palmer ... ? 

I would like to talk to this USCE guy. How can I do that, Andrade ?

So was Palmer's chart also the work of some USCE guy? Maybe it was the USCE guy who was examining sand layers while Palmer was following him around work on a chart? Lets talk to this USCE guy and find out WTF was going on at Tina Bar?