R99, based on the shadows in the photo from the helicopter can you estimate what time it is? you could then find out where the tide cycle is at that point..

Here is my reasoning using the photo you posted in #5103 above.  Note that the shadows are extremely long which means that the sun was quite low in the southern sky as would be expected in mid-February at the Tina Bar location.

Note that the water's edge is basically north and south.  Note that the shadows are at about a 45 degree angle with the water's edge and I would estimate that the shadows are pointing to the northeast.

I have no actual idea where the tide was at that time, but it looks like the people who are standing by the water's edge are on the high tide line. 

My guess is that the photo was taken about 2:30 PM and that sunset would be about 5:00 PM to 5:15 PM.  That is, the photo was taken about mid-afternoon, give or take a bit, and between 2:00 PM and 3:00 PM.

Whoa, Chauce - we got the GPS coordinates a few pages back. That ain't good enough fer ya?

Whoa, Chauce - we got the GPS coordinates a few pages back. That ain't good enough fer ya?

Well, it seems like that is just one opinion of many. Not saying it’s wrong - I don’t know - just seems like with many other things in this case, there’s just no consensus.

Someone mentioned on a previous page that money does not float - like driftwood for example.

However, money attached to a body would - for a period of time, obviously. We know that Cooper jumped with the money strapped to his person. If he died in the jumped, one could conclude that the money would remain with his corpse.

Another thing to consider is that any river setting - especially one as large as the Columbia - comes with a variety of factors that when accumulated can cause weird things to happen. Animals, boats, wave action, tides, rain, snow, ice, floods, wind, etc. can all combine to act on something like a body or a bag of money. There are an almost impossible of number of permutations of variables that could place that money on that beach at that time.

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Someone mentioned on a previous page that money does not float - like driftwood for example.

However, money attached to a body would - for a period of time, obviously. We know that Cooper jumped with the money strapped to his person. If he died in the jumped, one could conclude that the money would remain with his corpse.

Another thing to consider is that any river setting - especially one as large as the Columbia - comes with a variety of factors that when accumulated can cause weird things to happen. Animals, boats, wave action, tides, rain, snow, ice, floods, wind, etc. can all combine to act on something like a body or a bag of money. There are an almost impossible of number of permutations of variables that could place that money on that beach at that time.

Chaucer, this has already been discussed at extreme length. 

If Cooper was a no-pull and landed on more or less solid ground, the body would degrade within a matter of weeks even in a Portland/Vancouver winter.  The weather would soak the parachutes, money bag, and anything else attached to Cooper.  After a few weeks, neither Cooper's body or the items attached to him would have any meaningful flotation capability.

But for a few hours after Cooper's impact, even in the river itself, there would be some flotation capability.

Obviously, something unusual happened for the money to be stolen in November but not get wet until June. Something strange - outside of expected or probable actions - occurred, and we don’t know what. Perhaps it wasn’t a floating body, but Some weird combination of factors put that money on Tena Bar.

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Someone mentioned on a previous page that money does not float - like driftwood for example.

However, money attached to a body would - for a period of time, obviously. We know that Cooper jumped with the money strapped to his person. If he died in the jumped, one could conclude that the money would remain with his corpse.

Another thing to consider is that any river setting - especially one as large as the Columbia - comes with a variety of factors that when accumulated can cause weird things to happen. Animals, boats, wave action, tides, rain, snow, ice, floods, wind, etc. can all combine to act on something like a body or a bag of money. There are an almost impossible of number of permutations of variables that could place that money on that beach at that time.

Chaucer, this has already been discussed at extreme length. 

If Cooper was a no-pull and landed on more or less solid ground, the body would degrade within a matter of weeks even in a Portland/Vancouver winter.  The weather would soak the parachutes, money bag, and anything else attached to Cooper.  After a few weeks, neither Cooper's body or the items attached to him would have any meaningful flotation capability.

But for a few hours after Cooper's impact, even in the river itself, there would be some flotation capability.

Obviously, something unusual happened for the money to be stolen in November but not get wet until June. Something strange - outside of expected or probable actions - occurred, and we don’t know what. Perhaps it wasn’t a floating body, but Some weird combination of factors put that money on Tena Bar.

The about exact to what Tom Kaye told me a couple weeks ago surrounding the factors..

I cannot foresee a scenario where a rotting corpse goes unnoticed in this area. There has been a fair degree of activity in and around these woods by the Fazios, Andersons, and the fisherman.

Moreover, for those who subscribe to the FBI Flight Path, if DBC's body did end up there in the woods, how did it get there? Obviously a dead man can't walk.

I’m thinking of a scenario where the body ends up upstream from Tena Bar (somewhere along or just a few miles west of the V23), not in the water but close to it. Somewhere remote enough where a body with thousands of dollars strapped to it could remain hidden throughout the winter. Then, due to some combination of flooding, rain, snow melt, etc. ends up in the Columbia where it floats downstream to Tena Bar. By some unknown mechanism, the money becomes free of the bag and the body and part of it subsequently ends up on Tena Bar.

As I articulate this, it really does seem farfetched, but with some many possibilities, I don’t think it’s too wild a theory to ponder.