Same old song and dance with FJ -

The word PACKET is NOT an official banking term today. Was it in 1971? I dont think so, according to the SeaFirst bank and Fed Reserve phone calls I made. FJ's defense for PACKET being an official banking term is three FBI 302's FJ presents - the same 302's he presented before. See those 302s attached. Never mind that FJ is cherry picking after saying 'you cant trust the information in 302s'. However, Himmelsbach uses an actual banking term in his video taped money description: STRAPS.

""There were ten thousand twenty dollar bills assembled in straps of a hundred bills to a strap and individual straps held together with rubber bands."

No mention of paper straps but only rubber bands . . .

BTW BUNDLES is an official banking term as defined by the Federal Reserve - all anyone has to do is Google this or go to a Federal Reserve website.

Back to basics: what are the issues the Science Team was tasked to answer? (a) how was the money prepared for delivered to Cooper on the plane, (b) what was the state of the money as found by the Ingrams, and (c) is there anything about the money that establishes how and when it arrived on Tina Bar, (d) is there anything about the money that tells us what happened to Cooper?

Let's go back to the FBI's original description of the Ingram find (in the socalled Palmer Report).

Ingram statement:
'''... the boy turned up three bundles of money wrapped with rubber bands ... The boy picked up the money and the family determined that it was $20 bills... The bills were badly decomposed but held together with rubber bands which were so old they crumbled away immediately upon handling... Once home INGRAMs brother-in-law took the rest of the rubber bands off and was going to dry out the money and try to reclaim it at a bank. They had no idea where the money had come from or what it meant. The money was in a parcel barely held together by decomposed rubber bands, which crumbled and fell away upon being handled. '''
In a separate interview years later Brian says: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

“We are out here making a campfire, my father and I, and that’s when we discovered the three packets of $20 bills, later to be proven as ransom money of D.B. Cooper."

Brian has told others: “the money came out in pieces”. No statement of how many pieces or what pieces means. No mention of rubber bands or paper straps. Somebody in the FBI report above decided there were “there bundles”.  But, the above FBI statement does not make it clear if rubber bands were around each of three bundles, or if the rubber bands were around the whole find?   Where on the found money did INGRAMs brother-in-law remove rubber bands, or rubber band fragments. And there is no mention of paper straps in any of this.

At best the evidence is ambiguous and unclear. No FBI forensic report mentions looking for or finding rubber band fragments on any of the bills – and no paper strap remains either. FJ explains the paper straps away by saying they all “dissolved” over time.
 
The Federal Reserve rules which applied in 1971 say:

"How many bills are in a strap?"      -        Himmelsbach used the word STRAP.

"A ‘strap’ is a package of 100 notes regardless of denomination. A ‘bundle’ consists of 1,000 notes of the same denomination in ten equal straps of 100 notes each. Before depositing currency, currency must be prepared according to denomination. For $1 through $20 denominations, your deposit(s) must contain full ‘bundles’."

How were the bills being stored at SeaFirst before they were used to package a ransom for delivery to Cooper – anyone know? I thought we already knew the answer to that question but now, under the Fkyjack and Blevins regime at Dropzone, I not going to hazard saying anything about that! Anyone else dare answer or cares?

So, I guess it’s Carr and his witnesses and maybe Tom Kaye, vs Flyjack at Dropzone. Good luck to all and have a Merry Christmas!

Wow, Tom. Fascinating stuff!

Based on your results, it seems to indicate that the Cooper money was dry from the hijacking until the early summer and then somehow became submerged before being buried on Tena Bar shortly after.

Perhaps the money came to rest on the river bank in November, 1971 until May/June 1972 when it fell/slid/was washed into the Columbia somewhere shortly upstream from Tena Bar where it somehow ended up where it did (Dredge? Flood?).

The question now, it seems, is where did the money end up AFTER DBC jumped? It was certainly near the Columbia but where along the river? Nearer to the location of the find? Or more toward where the flight crossed the Columbia on the flight path?

Regardless, my theory that he hit the water with the money moments after the hijacking is in serious doubt - along with those who claim the money was buried immediately after or shortly after Cooper landed.

Profound findings, Tom. Congratulations.

I’m an academic so I’m always willing to change my opinion based on new information. I’m curious if others here will do the same or if they will begin to contort Tom’s conclusions to fit their own narrative or if they will try to undermine Or diminish Tom’s conclusions to maintain their narrative.

R99,

Based on Tom’s conclusions here, I think it’s even more likely that Cooper did not survive the jump, don’t you agree? Unless there are some bizarre circumstances, I don’t know why Cooper would allow himself to be separated from $6000 if he landed safely. I think it also puts his landing spot (either dead or alive) much closer to the Columbia. What do you think?