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Only a couple things can be tested in this event...putting bundles of money in the sand for long periods, and finding a dredge to run simulated bills through and see if they can survive the trip. as soon as the river decides to work with us, we can begin our project..

Perhaps a visit to the Army Corps in the future? right off the Morrison Bridge (downtown)
333 SW First Ave.
Portland, OR 97204-3440

Why not?  Pick a spot they're working, ask them to dredge up a made up money bag and see what happens.  Can't hurt to ask.  Meyer

I'd have expected a fragment of the bag left behind in the sand with the money, if this dredge scenario occurred Mayer

Maybe, maybe not, Dace.
Mayor Meyer

It's really hard to say. the money could of been on shore and flooding brought the money to it's location. if the money was on the bottom, it's going to be extremely difficult to climb out on it's own...

Ok, so you get a buoy to Tina Bar from some place. Next step: how does it bury itself three feet deep in the sand?     Maybe we should just go back to the way things were and ignore the KIRO video, Schreuder testimony, etc. 

Maybe beavers found and brought the money to Tina Bar then chewed part of it up and buried the pieces?  Or martins or vols ...

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Maybe beavers found and brought the money to Tina Bar then chewed part of it up and buried the pieces?  Or martins or vols ...

That is good, original, creative thinking!

Beavers also work in colonies (groups), like bees. One group informs and passes off to the other. But all of the beavers from that era are dead so we cant interview them. I tried once back in the sixties - very difficult.

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Maybe beavers found and brought the money to Tina Bar then chewed part of it up and buried the pieces?  Or martins or vols ...

That is good, original, creative thinking!

Beavers also work in colonies (groups), like bees. One group informs and passes off to the other. But all of the beavers from that era are dead so we cant interview them. I tried once back in the sixties - very difficult.

Well it’s official things seems to be going off the rails on me with the test I proposed.  If nothing else, it brought a few laughs to the forum.

I have noticed over time on the forum things get a bit twisted in regards to peoples theories but I have been clear from the beginning.

1.    I believe Natural means brought the money to the Tina Bar region and could have done so from quite a distance via Columbia River Flow
2.   When I was specifically asked on this forum on how the money became buried, I stated I’m a firm believer it was a result of dredging.  In other words, a portion or all the money came to rest on the bottom of the Columbia near the dredging operation and possibly some on the banks itself.
3.   That’s no conspiracy theories, no plant, no human intervention (other than the dredging), no seagulls dropping it while trying to build a nest and no beavers involved

Another approach from this forum and its Senior members may be something like this.  Hey Trapper we appreciate the offer of you donating your time, boat and gas money to conducting the test.  However, we believe the test is of no value to the case at this time.  I can respect that (don’t necessarily agree) but I would respect that.  Then maybe suggest something I could do physically (as I’m in the area with means) to help.  Okay the “appreciate” was a little over the top but I just wanted to feel good about myself for a moment!

Side note Beavers are plentiful in the Columbia River basin

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Maybe beavers found and brought the money to Tina Bar then chewed part of it up and buried the pieces?  Or martins or vols ...

That is good, original, creative thinking!

Beavers also work in colonies (groups), like bees. One group informs and passes off to the other. But all of the beavers from that era are dead so we cant interview them. I tried once back in the sixties - very difficult.

Well it’s official things seems to be going off the rails on me with the test I proposed.  If nothing else, it brought a few laughs to the forum.

I have noticed over time on the forum things get a bit twisted in regards to peoples theories but I have been clear from the beginning.

1.    I believe Natural means brought the money to the Tina Bar region and could have done so from quite a distance via Columbia River Flow
2.   When I was specifically asked on this forum on how the money became buried, I stated I’m a firm believer it was a result of dredging.  In other words, a portion or all the money came to rest on the bottom of the Columbia near the dredging operation and possibly some on the banks itself.
3.   That’s no conspiracy theories, no plant, no human intervention (other than the dredging), no seagulls dropping it while trying to build a nest and no beavers involved

Another approach from this forum and its Senior members may be something like this.  Hey Trapper we appreciate the offer of you donating your time, boat and gas money to conducting the test.  However, we believe the test is of no value to the case at this time.  I can respect that (don’t necessarily agree) but I would respect that.  Then maybe suggest something I could do physically (as I’m in the area with means) to help.  Okay the “appreciate” was a little over the top but I just wanted to feel good about myself for a moment!

Side note Beavers are plentiful in the Columbia River basin

Let me be very clear.

I would be in favor of ping pong balls or buoys or whatever dropped and tracked from any creek, river, bog, salmon crawl, estuary, lake, feeder stream ....  to see if any of them get to Tina Bar by natural means. I support any such effort/experiment.

I support any such effort 100% and I dont think its crazy at all! I wish it had been done in 1980!



 

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Maybe beavers found and brought the money to Tina Bar then chewed part of it up and buried the pieces?  Or martins or vols ...

That is good, original, creative thinking!

Beavers also work in colonies (groups), like bees. One group informs and passes off to the other. But all of the beavers from that era are dead so we cant interview them. I tried once back in the sixties - very difficult.

Well it’s official things seems to be going off the rails on me with the test I proposed.  If nothing else, it brought a few laughs to the forum.

I have noticed over time on the forum things get a bit twisted in regards to peoples theories but I have been clear from the beginning.

1.    I believe Natural means brought the money to the Tina Bar region and could have done so from quite a distance via Columbia River Flow
2.   When I was specifically asked on this forum on how the money became buried, I stated I’m a firm believer it was a result of dredging.  In other words, a portion or all the money came to rest on the bottom of the Columbia near the dredging operation and possibly some on the banks itself.
3.   That’s no conspiracy theories, no plant, no human intervention (other than the dredging), no seagulls dropping it while trying to build a nest and no beavers involved

Another approach from this forum and its Senior members may be something like this.  Hey Trapper we appreciate the offer of you donating your time, boat and gas money to conducting the test.  However, we believe the test is of no value to the case at this time.  I can respect that (don’t necessarily agree) but I would respect that.  Then maybe suggest something I could do physically (as I’m in the area with means) to help.  Okay the “appreciate” was a little over the top but I just wanted to feel good about myself for a moment!

Side note Beavers are plentiful in the Columbia River basin

Side note Beavers are plentiful in the Columbia River basin ...

someone told SA MW when he was digging at Tina Bar in 1980: you guys should look in beaver dams for any signs of Cooper. Money. Parachute. Bones. .......... he wasn't kidding.

You could also include eagle nests ... bear dens .... and the like! JT searched beaver dams and several caves in the Washougal. The searchers near Ariel 1972 tried to be aware of those options ...

Another approach from this forum and its Senior members

Trapper(JohnMD),
When I first found this site, I too, was miffed at the humor and perceived inappropriateness of responses to new views.... heck, I got burnt alive for my belief here in Gunther's LeClair....  but then I had an epiphany....    this dry humor, actually serves a real function....  for it fills the void, with no solve coming soon, and assuages the subconscious fear of all its futility.  The humor is also a release of sorts, for the frustration of it all, knowing there will be likely no prosecution (per FBI stance).  So, to put things on an even keel, humor is interjected with fact and effort.   It is best, in this writers opinion, to embrace the wit.   Embrace it all, regardless if its coming, say, from a mechanical engineer now unemployed daytrader, from the former NY Giants QB, from yente, from tenured professors in cornland, from even murderer felons like Rackstraw posing as a woman (nickyb), etc.  Never take it personally, and never waver from any belief you may have, because it'll be tested here. Keep on your course.   

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