'All of the Ingram money from one bundle', says SA John Pringle of the Seattle Office.

SA Pringle is wrong unless the bank put at least $5800 in one bundle.  I suspect that Pringle was going on early estimates for a limited number of bills.

Columbia river is SLOWLY starting to recede just a little. I will be in town tomorrow and look around a bit if time permits. Sorry to hear of all the rain in Florida !

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..it is also possible the TBAR cash hung up on the plane and dropped into the Columbia.

It's also possible that the Anderson grabbed Cooper before he jumped and the money fell out later?
It's also possible Cooper discarded the money before he jumped knowing it was marked?
It's also possible the money came off when it hit the jet stream?
It's also possible he landed in the river and the money separated?
It's also possible to disregard all known evidence?
It's also possible it was a 747?

where does this end with possibilities?

you need to prove Tina was not credible in her statement about taking any money from Cooper. Tina, Tina Bar? northwest airlines, in the northwest? missing placard, but no damage to the stairs other than the side panels?

There are possibilities that are more valid than others.

You keep asking for proof and evidence,

For sake of arg,  What evidence do you have TBAR money is DBC cash?  Isn't any, ser#'s matched the pre-NORJAK bank MICRO not DBC cash, therefore it is an assumption, it still may be true but still an assumption.

Dont want to dredge this up but there is no evidence it is true. Assumption or speculation? 

The last post I made a couple days ago talks about the "bills in question" they knew what thy had in the bag...
Serial numbers as well...

Somewhere is this mess is supposed to be a document showing a list of *start and stop numbers* of each bundle made, vs the full itemised bank micro list of bills received from the bank. What happened to that?

I have never seen a start stop listing. testxyz was trying to figuring bundles out. I was under the impression that was where the red dots came from? how did red dots get on black copies?

I will have to go back to my notes - this has become very complicated due to different versions and statements by multiple people. I thought the bank had a microfiche(s) of their emergency cash fund. They prepared a microfiche of the bills given to NWA on loan. That amount was $250k. At the end of that microfiche was a separate list of start and stop numbers indicating the start and stop serial numbers in each bundle banded, for Cooper. The total amount of those bundles was $200k. Somehow in the legal accounting of all of the money given to NWA two serial numbers came up short? I have no idea what happened to the extra $50k, if it was given back, kept for some reason, or what.

A copy of the bank's microfiche and the start and stop numbers amounting to $200k of bundled money given to Cooper, became the basis of the FBI's pamphlet listing all Cooper serial numbers in alpha-numeric order. The FBI sent copies of that pamphlet out to banks. It was this pamphlet the Portland office used to check Ingram's numbers with. The FBI Lab used the original microfiche (a copy of it) and the start and stop numbers to check (as best they could) the order of the bills in groups of bills the Ingrams turned in - the order of bills in the bundles was random. The FBI Lab discovered that the order in the Ingram bundles was basically in the same order as when given to Cooper. It was assumed from this the Ingram bundles hadn't been disturbed since being given to Cooper.

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The understand i have is the FBI needed 200 grand. the bank supplied them with 200 grand. the serial numbers were already put on record. they supplied them with the serial numbers, but 30 grand more in serial numbers were on that list. they gave them a separate list of those numbers to remove from the original list.

The past records indicated that 250 grand was on hand for emergencies. some of the bills were not 20 dollar bills. 230 grand was in 20 dollar bills leaving 20 grand in other denominations that were removed previous to the list provided for the ransom.

$200,000 given to the FBI
$230,00 in 20 dollar bills
$20,000 in other denominations (50's, 100's etc.)

I believe the only error I can see is the two missing serial numbers from the original list provided to the public.
 

The understand i have is the FBI needed 200 grand. the bank supplied them with 200 grand. the serial numbers were already put on record. they supplied them with the serial numbers, but 30 grand more in serial numbers were on that list. they gave them a separate list of those numbers to remove from the original list.

The past records indicated that 250 grand was on hand for emergencies. some of the bills were not 20 dollar bills. 230 grand was in 20 dollar bills leaving 20 grand in other denominations that were removed previous to the list provided for the ransom.

$200,000 given to the FBI
$230,00 in 20 dollar bills
$20,000 in other denominations (50's, 100's etc.)

I believe the only error I can see is the two missing serial numbers from the original list provided to the public.

based on your previous fbi doc that sounds about right -

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but 30 grand more in serial numbers were on that list

Am sorry to ask, but I tend to tune out when a flame war starts..... Thus, I didn't catch the main assertion by the Flyjack thread on the emails that went back and forth regarding the TinaBar money serial numbers......
was it his or someone elses assertion here that the TinaBar money serial numbers were actually in these extra 30 grand on the bank list, and not from the actual DBC money ?

I believe that was Flyjack's contention.  - that the TinaBar money serial numbers were actually in these extra 30 grand on the bank list, and not from the actual DBC money given to Cooper.

Moreover, if I understood FJ's claim, he has actual serial numbers from the Ingram money find that he claims are not on (or cannot be on) the list of serial numbers that were given to Cooper.

FJ's claim is that the Ingram find money is NOT money that was given to Cooper!

FLYJACK's claim, if true, leaves open the question as to how the Tina Bar money got from the bank to Tina Bar if Cooper didn't have it.  But FLYJACK seems to ignore pesky details such as that.