I don't see any conflict between Ckret and Kaye (transcript)..
The only issue that needs clearing up is the bank guy making DBC bundles irregular and TBAR regular 3x100 bundles..
The greater issue is the FBI had nothing to do with recording any of the bills or maintaining the integrity of the MICRO list vs the $250k emergency stash.
So, any error by the bank is unverifiable and would produce a bogus FBI list. We need to know when the Micro was made and a chain of custody for the $250k emergency stash. Canister/Micro is gone. WHY
One Example: A year before a $25k ransom was paid and the guy was arrested in Portland. FBI refused to admit if the money was recovered. If the bank had taken the $25k from the emergency stash then replaced it without re-photographing the entire MICRO list in order then the $25k ransom bills serial numbers would end up in the DBC list and it is then possible that the TBAR money is from that $25k ransom.
There is no evidence that the MICRO list in the canister given to the FBI maintained by the bank 100% matched the $250k emergency stash. If it didn't then the edited and published alpha numeric FBI list is wrong and would contain bill numbers never given to DBC.
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FLYJACK,
Your attempts to change the facts in order to support your candidate of choice are obvious.
You apparently are trying to claim that the Tina Bar money was not even part of the money given to Cooper.
And you are trying to claim that the location of Cooper's jump is nowhere close to Tina Bar or the original FBI proposed jump zone.
With such "alternate facts", why don't you just claim Cooper hijacked a United 727 and bailed out near Spokane?
nonsense,
what facts have I changed?
You are just trying to protect your theory..
And you are just trying to change facts so you can introduce your "Cooper candidate".
No,
You fail to identify the facts that you claim I have changed.
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This has zero impact on any suspect and whether they died in the jump or survived.
Fact: Some identified TBAR bill serial numbers matched the FBI list.
Fact: The FBI never recorded the bill serial numbers given to DBC.
A: Fact: Some identified TBAR bill serial numbers matched the FBI list.
B: Fact: The FBI never recorded the bill serial numbers given to DBC.
C: Fact: Mother Terresa never recorded the bill serial numbers given to DBC.
D: Fact: Some identified TBAR bill serial numbers matched the FBI list, which the FBI never recorded .
E: Fact: You never recorded the bill serial numbers given to DBC either!
F: Fact: Therefore anything is possible. It is possible that DBC received $250k but never received $200K of it, and none of the serial numbers match any serial numbers that Pope Francis or anyone else was not given but made a copy anyway! Any permutation is possible if you just claim it.
This is all semantic bullshit.
Robert99 accused me of changing facts but refuses to identify them.
So, Georger resorts to his typical strawman stuff... waste of time.
Flyjack,
R99 said:
"You apparently are trying to claim that the Tina Bar money was not even part of the money given to Cooper.
And you are trying to claim that the location of Cooper's jump is nowhere close to Tina Bar or the original FBI proposed jump zone."
These statements imply two accepted facts -- and they've been around a long time: (a) the Tina Bar money was part of the money given to Cooper, and (b) the jump was in the original FBI jump zone OR close to Tina Bar (both are backed up with their own evidence).
You need to cool it! It's okay to present your claims that oppose conventional thought, but you can't be belligerent and disrespectful. I really don't like the tone you take with two of the most respected DBC researchers around. See my other post.
MeyerLouie
Meyer,
What evidence do you have that the published FBI bill list = DBC money?
FACT: The TBAR bills matched the FBI list.
FACT: There is zero evidence aka NO FACTS to support A, B and C,
A. The MICRO list maintained by the BANK list was 100% accurate to the $250k, NONE.
B. The FBI recorded any DBC bills.
C. The FBI removed all the correct 1500 bills they should have from the MICRO list. Only 30 are confirmed removed. The other 1470 bill numbers were never recorded.
Therefore, the accuracy of the FBI published list to the DBC money is just an assumption, not a fact. Anyone who says it is fact is just elevating an assumption to fact. The assumption still may be true, it just isn't a provable fact as everyone believes.
The FBI list is 9998, two bill's short WHY is that? an error by the bank? or the FBI? any ideas? Did DBC get 10000 $20's or only 9998?
And.. my DZ area is actually only about 10 miles N of the original jump zone, but I said go south from there and probability diminishes. So, you'd run into the original drop zone.
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FlyByNite,
This ground has already been covered by you a zillion times, nothing anybody says will change that. I'm done here.
Meyer
Can't answer, clearly you have elevated assumptions to facts... I thought you knew everything there was to know and forgot even more...
maybe you can solve this then,
How did DBC bundles made irregular by the bank go from irregular to (claimed) regular at TBAR?
Must be a simple explanation..
No, I don't know everything FLYJACKass -- never ever professed that. I'm just tired of listening to your arrogant and outlandish bullshit -- over and over again -- it's a broken record. I believe I said my colleagues here have forgotten more than you'll ever know, and after listening to you flap you jaws, I'm convinced of that now more than ever. How's Blevins doing? You two gotta be buddies.
MeyerLouie
Again, no answers... just personal attacks to mask lack of knowledge and understanding.
NOTE: Ridicule is actually NOT an argument..
Once again,
How did DBC bundles made irregular by the bank go from irregular to (claimed) regular at TBAR?
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That's total bullshit, FLYJACKoff, it's not a lack of knowledge, and you, Newbie, assume you have lots of it. Actually what you have is an agenda, a theory, and you are using this forum to promote your theory, your book, and your mystery suspect (I guess it's going to be mystery novel).
Low probability means something can still happen. Is it possible that some of the 100 bundles that Cooper got were regular?. Was there time to irregularly bundle all 100 (which for the life of me I can't explain why they would want to do that -- as if Cooper wouldn't figure it out). Moreover, who says they irregularly bundled all 100, or if they even wanted to? Just because they could does not mean they did. And if some of the bundles were regular, there is a that small chance they are the ones that ended up at Tina Bar. Just like everyone else with a theory, you have to make some assumptions. You are no different. Talk your mystery suspect, maybe he knows.
I already know how you are going to respond, you are as predictable as Robert Blevins.
MeyerLouie
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