If the years are correct on the Clark County website.....it appears some action was taking place in 1978 down at the bottom of Tina Bar...Caterpillar island had a lot of sand put in place as well...

The photo shows sand being brought in from upstream somewhere...

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But if Cooper survived in the Tena Bar area, just how did the money get buried in the sand there and why didn't he take it with him?

Clearly, Robert99, you weren't in the Portland 2011 audience to hear Tom Kaye "speculate" that DB Cooper gave 6-grand to a guy for a ride to PDX, and later the guy buried the money at T-Bar because he felt guilty and nervous about the cops suspecting him/arresting him for not telling them about his passenger.

Yeah, nobody else believed Tom, either. But when Tom says stuff like that in front of hundreds of people and dozens of TV cameras, I begin to wonder about his judgment.

That said, I do like Tom. He's a very pleasant fellow, and certainly well-connected within the Cooper firmament, and we've had a number of important conversations. But he is also incommunicado with me with frequency. Sometimes he talks/emails, other times he doesn't. Lately, we had a wonderful exchange about the Netflix docu titled "Dinosaur 13," the story of the guys in South Dakota who got busted for finding the world's largest T. Rex. Tom knows them all.

The guys and gals in So. Dakota knew they were at risk digging in the 'gray zone' of the Cheyenne River Reservation, and they got busted probably because their discovery turned out to be so very important - and they admitted there was risk in what they were doing. They suspected their discovery might be contested and lead to a legal struggle. Had their discovery not been as important, nothing probably would have happened, just as nothing happened in their previous dealings. They were a private business trying to finance a private institution, the Black Hills Institute at Hill City SD. Yes they were good and highly qualified and respected, responsible for helping a lot of people get educated in methodology et cetera. But, they took risks and they knew it, ... and the sky fell. It is a very sad story! 

I went to school with one of those guys and the former State Archaeologist in So Dakota, Bob Alex.

The bust was not as simple as you infer, G. The guy who got incarcerated did two years in the Florence Fed. Pen for failure to file out federal custom forms correctly. As the intake guy said, as quoted in the docu - "You're doing two years because you messed up a couple of forms? You must have really pissed somebody off."

The real story of what happened over Dinosaur 13 was not fully told in the docu. The guy whose land it was found on was paid $5K, and he cashed the check. But apparently he wanted more and ended up with $6.7 million. But how the South Dakota National Guard ended up hauling everything away from the museum indicates that something much larger was at work, and something that was much more political.

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The status of the Money at Tena Bar -

Several people are looking into different aspects of the money find. There likely won't be anything new until their work is more complete. Meanwhile ...

*A USGS seismic expert was contacted in Portland. While the Portland-Vancouver area has fault systems running underneath it, and the Mt St Helens event happened in May of 1980 following the discovery of money at Tena Bar in February 1980, the USGS expert looked at records and said there were no major tremors in the Portland or Vancouver area during the period leading up to the discovery of money at Tena Bar. He could find no evidence that seismic activity had anything to do with transporting debris to Tena Bar, radical changes in the hydro system of the Columbia basin, etc. He felt that the money being found at Tena Bar was most likely the result of long term hydrological events as they naturally occur in the Columbia basin. This expert felt that if Cooper survived the jump, the discovery of money at Tena Bar might be due to Cooper himself traveling through the area known to supply debris up stream, which includes Tena Bar. He said this could include the money bag being snagged in the river then sucked up and delivered to Tena Bar specifically, during the dredging project in 1974. He said that is the one explanation that involves Tena Bar, specifically. But, he stresses that for any of these scenarios to happen, Cooper or someone carrying the Cooper money, must be physically present in the area. He says there really is no other explanation without a major change in facts of the Cooper case. He says transport from the northern part of the Washougal to Tena Bar is impossible.

He says the solution to this problem is almost certainly hydrological, but for that to happen Cooper himself (or his money) must be in the area, after the jump. This expert thinks that the discovery of Cooper money at Tena Bar implies that Cooper survived, and there really is no other alternative under the present (Ckret) facts of the case. 

 

I don't follow the logic of the last sentence in the above post, but I think I have made similar posts along this line before.

If Cooper survived, just where did he "survive"?  If you would change "survived" to "un-survived" in the above post, I would be in complete agreement with just about everything in that post.

But if Cooper survived in the Tena Bar area, just how did the money get buried in the sand there and why didn't he take it with him?

The geologist is saying that the money and Cooper are inseparable. That the money cannot even be in the Columbia basin without a living Cooper, himself. That Cooper must have survived and traveled from the northern dropzone to the Vancouver area, under the current FBI narrative of the case. He thinks that Cooper and the money had to be together in the area that brings debris to Tena Bar hydrologically, and the hydrological zone favored is no further away than the Columbia-Willemette confluence and probably closer.

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The status of the Money at Tena Bar -

Several people are looking into different aspects of the money find. There likely won't be anything new until their work is more complete. Meanwhile ...

*A USGS seismic expert was contacted in Portland. While the Portland-Vancouver area has fault systems running underneath it, and the Mt St Helens event happened in May of 1980 following the discovery of money at Tena Bar in February 1980, the USGS expert looked at records and said there were no major tremors in the Portland or Vancouver area during the period leading up to the discovery of money at Tena Bar. He could find no evidence that seismic activity had anything to do with transporting debris to Tena Bar, radical changes in the hydro system of the Columbia basin, etc. He felt that the money being found at Tena Bar was most likely the result of long term hydrological events as they naturally occur in the Columbia basin. This expert felt that if Cooper survived the jump, the discovery of money at Tena Bar might be due to Cooper himself traveling through the area known to supply debris up stream, which includes Tena Bar. He said this could include the money bag being snagged in the river then sucked up and delivered to Tena Bar specifically, during the dredging project in 1974. He said that is the one explanation that involves Tena Bar, specifically. But, he stresses that for any of these scenarios to happen, Cooper or someone carrying the Cooper money, must be physically present in the area. He says there really is no other explanation without a major change in facts of the Cooper case. He says transport from the northern part of the Washougal to Tena Bar is impossible.

He says the solution to this problem is almost certainly hydrological, but for that to happen Cooper himself (or his money) must be in the area, after the jump. This expert thinks that the discovery of Cooper money at Tena Bar implies that Cooper survived, and there really is no other alternative under the present (Ckret) facts of the case. 

 

I don't follow the logic of the last sentence in the above post, but I think I have made similar posts along this line before.

If Cooper survived, just where did he "survive"?  If you would change "survived" to "un-survived" in the above post, I would be in complete agreement with just about everything in that post.

But if Cooper survived in the Tena Bar area, just how did the money get buried in the sand there and why didn't he take it with him?

The geologist is saying that the money and Cooper are inseparable. That the money cannot even be in the Columbia basin without a living Cooper, himself. That Cooper must have survived and traveled from the northern dropzone to the Vancouver area, under the current FBI narrative of the case. He thinks that Cooper and the money had to be together in the area that brings debris to Tena Bar hydrologically, and the hydrological zone favored is no further away than the Columbia-Willemette confluence and probably closer.

As I understand it, the geologist is simply saying that, based on the original northern drop zone, Cooper had to survive the jump just to move the money to the Tena Bar area.  He can't bring himself to believe that the airliner just simply overflew the Tena Bar area and that Cooper and the money impacted on solid ground between the Columbia-Willamette confluence and Tena Bar.

So one must always seek the most convoluted answer.

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If the years are correct on the Clark County website.....it appears some action was taking place in 1978 down at the bottom of Tina Bar...Caterpillar island had a lot of sand put in place as well...

The photo shows sand being brought in from upstream somewhere...

Interesting ... where does the 78 photo come from? Is it a usgs photo?

Yes they are. the photo's used on the Clark county website are USGS....

Could you give the Clark Co url again ?

Found some photo's on the USGS website. I hope a better resolution can be found...

Photo below is June 1980...