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When I spoke with Dorwin a few weeks ago, he re-iterated that the money was most likely deposited on T-Bar by the dredge.

Lots of factors involved...

1) the timing of the jump is wrong.
2) The flight path could be wrong.
3) Cooper could of landed nearby..

If it's true that thousands of pieces were seen, or found on the beach. I would guess the dredge found the entire bag, and only a small amount survived going thru the pump. (speculation)


I've noticed that I have to refresh the page in order to see my new post sometimes...I'll look into the problem.

Imagine some new tech at the FBI lab being delivered a large box of fragments in 1980: "Here Fred. Have us a whole bill by 2015!" 

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And since the money find location was significantly higher than the river elevation on the night of the jump, it seems likely that the money was moving underwater at the time it was deposited at Tina Bar and probably came down the channel between Caterpillar Island and the east bank of the Columbia.

How did it get off the bottom of the river?

You are assuming that the money was on the bottom of the river at some time.  I have posted on this point before, but in my humble opinion Cooper impacted on dry land, quite possibly the eastern side of Caterpillar Island, and at an elevation somewhat above the money find elevation.

Within a few weeks, Cooper, along with the parachutes and money bag, would not have a "flotation" capability.  So when the river water elevation eventually reached Cooper's impact point during flooding, off went at least the money bag and probably some of Cooper as well.  It was then working its way both downstream and to a lower elevation above sea level when it dropped the money off at Tina Bar.  And whatever the three bundles of bills were in when they separated from their carrier, kept right on going to the Pacific.

After the money find, the next dredging of the shipping channel was to clear the ash from the Mt. St. Helens explosion which happened about three months after the money find.

Dorwin impressed on me that searchers were 'fervently' hoping/wanting to find some bone or anything biological that would link to Cooper himself. One question in everyone's thoughts was: "how far do we go!" All of this before the availability of ground penetrating radar, the home computer, and Chia Madonna! 

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Sorry, I posted on yours...again...

what I was trying to say was...watching the video you can tell it's about 20 feet.

shutter is there any way to save that movie and send me a copy? I dont care what the file format is. Any file format will do as long as its some kind of video format.

I've had pretty good luck converting youtube video using this:
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2016 T-Bar Re-cap

Okay, let me see if I understand the current view of events at Tina Bar.

1. Brian found tres bundolas on Sunday February 10, 1980.
2. Dorwin says the feds found shards scattered in circular-ish pattern centered on the site of Brian's find for a general circumference of about 20 feet, starting about 40 feet up from the water line.
3. Dorwin also says that the feds found a plume trail heading south - UPSTREAM - for about 60 feet from the major find.
4. This plume trail is about 4-6 feet wide.
5. Dorwin arrived on Day 1 of the federal dig, which was Tuesday February 12. He arrived after the initial arrival of the first few agents, possibly from the Vancouver satellite office.
6. Dorwin was the acting PIO, since Portland's primary PIO was busy elsewhere. (In court.)
7. Dorwin left T-Bar sometime on Wednesday, Feb 13 to attend to other duties (what could be more important than DB Cooper's money???)
8. "Thousands" of fragments were found, and bagged in whatever stuff was handy and relatively appropriate, such as business envelopes. Evidence was tagged and handed over to, whom? (Seattle, Vancouver, Portland?)
9. No civilians have ever seen these fragments since. Not even the Citizen Sleuths, Geoffrey Gray, or Galen Cook.

I don't know, Robert99. This is the first I've ever heard of the "plume." Georger would know more, I suppose, since this is all from him.

Dorwin never mentioned a plume trail to me. McPheters never mentioned it either.

I'm just trying to condense all the stuff I've been reading over the past few pages and make sense of it all.

Simply, I know nothing about the plume trail - whether it was expanding, contracting, wavering, or whatever.

2016 T-Bar Re-cap

Okay, let me see if I understand the current view of events at Tina Bar.

1. Brian found tres bundolas on Sunday February 10, 1980.
2. Dorwin says the feds found shards scattered in circular-ish pattern centered on the site of Brian's find for a general circumference of about 20 feet, starting about 40 feet up from the water line.
3. Dorwin also says that the feds found a plume trail heading south - UPSTREAM - for about 60 feet from the major find.
4. This plume trail is about 4-6 feet wide.
5. Dorwin arrived on Day 1 of the federal dig, which was Tuesday February 12. He arrived after the initial arrival of the first few agents, possibly from the Vancouver satellite office.
6. Dorwin was the acting PIO, since Portland's primary PIO was busy elsewhere. (In court.)
7. Dorwin left T-Bar sometime on Wednesday, Feb 13 to attend to other duties (what could be more important than DB Cooper's money???)
8. "Thousands" of fragments were found, and bagged in whatever stuff was handy and relatively appropriate, such as business envelopes. Evidence was tagged and handed over to, whom? (Seattle, Vancouver, Portland?)
9. No civilians have ever seen these fragments since. Not even the Citizen Sleuths, Geoffrey Gray, or Galen Cook.

No, No, & No!  Go back and read what has been posted. What has been posted is very clear.

Just talked to Dorwin and others and have brand new material to post tonight. For one thing, Tom's citation of the Faxio having spread the dredge spoils 50 yards each direction off center, is only an estimate. It could have been more or less than 50 yards. Tom's contention that the Ingram find was too far from the where the dredge spoils were spread (by 100 yards) is now only an estimate on Tom's part because the '50 yard' figure was using was never a firm number but only a "estimate - probably" (quote unquote). Morover, Tom's estimate fails to take account of other factors which were in play.  And, the photo Tom is using and presented is a photo from 9-6-74 before the full load of materials had even been placed on Tena Bar, or spread! Dredging did not stop until 9-18-74 and the spreading occurred after that. Tom's 9-6-74 photo doesn't even show the dredging piles after they were spread so it is not an accurate portrait from which to make measurements!
   

Dredging did not stop until 9-18-74

I noticed in the larger 9-6 photo that the dredge seems to have moved north away from Tina Bar depositing on the west bank?