I seem to remember, somewhere buried in the bowls of this discussion, is a kind of explanation by Harold of why and how they went to Tina Bar ... I dont know if he knew the Fazio's but I seem to remember somebody told him about Tina Bar, a good fishing and outing place to take the family? It may have come through somebody at is work, and there may indeed have been a connection through U-Cart and the Fazios operation? But thousands of people knew about Tina Bar and went there ... it wasn't some private secret. People clear to Seattle knew the Fazio's and Tina Bar! People in foreign countries knew about the place. It was an open recommendation to the whole world ... and a major fishing location known to thousands+. And the whole area a hotly debated public resource ...
this claims that they were friends with the landowners, may not be true though, Sluggo's site also makes the claim
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Login"Dwayne and Patricia Ingram enjoyed taking their two boys to a little stretch of sandy beach on the Columbia River near their Vancouver, Wash., home. Access to the beach was blocked by private property, but the Ingrams were friends with the landowners, and permission to pass through was never a problem.
Brian Ingram, then 8, fulfilled a number of childhood adventures at his family's special getaway spot, skipping rocks along the water and swimming in the river."