here is what the setting is at presently...

3 per post, maximum total size 668KB, maximum individual size 200KB

I thought it was 4, but it appears to be 3.....

Ok, now, we have the Fazio's stating that they pushed the sand 50 yards each way from the center. that doesn't even get past the the spoil itself?

Someone is wrong somewhere. if they didn't push the sand that far up, the layers are not correctly labeled. if Fazio is wrong and the sand was indeed pushed in the "money zone" then the layers could be correct, but don't seem to jive with the dredge samples taken just off the shoreline?

I found information on a clam shell dredge up around Hayden Island that had samples containing clay.

No matter who says what you are seeing the layers/strata at the money trench in the photos I posted. The upper active layer and the cross bedded layer clearly match what Palmer said. Everything below that? Traditionally the UAL is the most recent .... any cross bedded layer below that is later ... and anything below that is later still.

The money was found in the upper two layers.

Are you saying the upper two layers are dredging spoils? (I dont think so!  )

Note the air pockets at the lower margin of the cross bedded layer. Is that turbulence? What accounts for those air pockets?

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R99, I don't follow what you are saying. the yellow pin Tom marks as the position is outside of any of the circles made? I was pointing out the date the person gave me for the 5-5-74 photo appears to be incorrect?

Georger, you can post up to 4 photo's per post....

Basically, I was just point out that Tom Kaye's GPS coordinates for the money find location lie within those circles.  A week or two ago, there seemed to be some people here questioning that.  If any pin on Tom's map is outside those circles, then the pin is located wrong on the map.  To repeat, Tom's GPS coordinates are within those circles.

The circle is mainly in the spoil area?

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R99, I don't follow what you are saying. the yellow pin Tom marks as the position is outside of any of the circles made? I was pointing out the date the person gave me for the 5-5-74 photo appears to be incorrect?

Georger, you can post up to 4 photo's per post....

Basically, I was just point out that Tom Kaye's GPS coordinates for the money find location lie within those circles.  A week or two ago, there seemed to be some people here questioning that.  If any pin on Tom's map is outside those circles, then the pin is located wrong on the map.  To repeat, Tom's GPS coordinates are within those circles.

The circle is mainly in the spoil area?

Its his gps coords we are talking about...

BTW. That cross bedded layer could have started as a thin layer of dredging spoils that migrated or from the spreading then got covered up by newer material over time. Palmer did no soil chemistry to document anything! And Kaye didnt either.

Once again, Tom's focus on the FBI circles is part of his attempt to separate the money from the dredging spoils, physically. Tom claims the spreading was only 50 yards north (if that!), and that "the river doesn't flow in the direction of the money find!". (south to north). That's a tall claim or we just won;t talk about that? The fact is the river does flow south to north, from where the spoils were deposited toward where the money was found. Very likely Tom would say 'it doesnt matter' The whole thing is confusing and confused... imho.     

Understood on the chemistry, but it appears that layer B could be associated with dredge material more than the clay layer?

Its funny that you posted this because I was just going to post:

"Elutriation is a process for separating particles based on their size, shape and density,..."

When mixed with water heavy things tend to settle at the bottom ... lighter things toward the top. The wet viscous dredging spoils would have followed this principle to some degree. Lighter material migrates and mixes more easily. I think its a distinct possibility the bottom of that cross bedded layer could have consisted of the lighter dredging sands and anything that traveled with it road along for the ride ... like bundles of Cooper money?

At a later date that mix of cross bedded sand would appear as a semi-uniform mass when it fact it consisted of a number of different sands laid down and worked at different times over a longer span of time. The upper active layer is without a doubt a briefer span of time compared to the cross bedded layers below it ... that would also account for the chemical contamination of the bills from the dredging spoils if the USGS chemist is right.

Its just a hypothesis.

PS: The Fazios had to wait several days for the spoils to settle and firm up before they could do any spreading. And depending on how far their blade dug down, they would have been spreading lighter more mobile material?

According to Tom's photo with the yellow pin shows the location about 150 yards from the center of the north spoil. the pin appears to be a little to far east. it looks like it's on the zig zag dirt road seen in his photo.

So subtract 50 yards due to spreading 50yards off center each direction. Now we are at 100 yards. 300 feet. A football field. Can we expect high water and other water driven forces to move things 100 yards ...... north .... along the Mighty Columbia River! ? The answer is kind of self evident isnt it?      I mean just theoretically.   

Why hell! The average three year old can span that distance just in teh time it takes for Mom to go to the kitchen tap for a drink and turn around to look back at Little Willy! 

I mean: Tina's Bar is not a cement parking lot where things are set on concrete!