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How did the money arrive on Tena Bar

River Flooding
1 (5%)
Floated to it's resting spot via Columbia river
2 (10%)
Planted
6 (30%)
Dredge
11 (55%)
tossed in the river in a paper bag
0 (0%)

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Voting closed: August 16, 2016, 09:05:28 AM

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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #1305 on: July 18, 2015, 09:41:48 PM »
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No, no friends. I think Cooper just felt for her, he wanted to compensate her. A meeting is out of the question, but a few bucks in the sand...no risk there, as history has proven, it was found, not by her and lead...to nothing.


That's a tough theory. she ends up not picking up the money, and also fails to notify anyone about the whole thing. I just can't find a plausible reason to plant the money. they had no idea who, or where he was, so throwing them off the trail is out.

Tom Kaye told me he still has samples, and they still don't look like the Ingrams find. it's very puzzling to say the least...
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #1306 on: July 18, 2015, 09:53:28 PM »
Cooper has been spotting.....maybe  ;D ;D ;D


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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #1307 on: July 18, 2015, 10:21:32 PM »
Tough...perhaps...but not far fetched. There's a somewhat documented connection, Tina says he was nice, gentlemen like...she wanted to like him. Flo says similar, Himmelsbach says he used prisoner speak...who do you believe? I believe to two who talked to Cooper. Mabey details are not to be released? Surely that's a possibility, a a specific word, just might be it, perhaps Himmelsbach is right, but...I doubt it. I dunno, I guess I base most of that theory, on the interview immediately after, the news conference at Reno, Tina is clearly, displaced, for lack of a better word.  Affected. There was some ... connection .. perhaps akin to Stockholm syndrome, and Cooper carried it, Tina, tried to forget it, but Cooper, wanted..to help her, the only way possible, $$$. Yes...this is conjecture...any investigation begins with...speculation. It's conjecture, for sure...but not out of the realm of real possibility.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #1308 on: July 18, 2015, 10:23:43 PM »
I'm gonna make a serious effort to make Ariel this year. I'd like to speak to you all, in person! No, I'm not Jo in disguise, although, I'd almost like to talk to her too.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #1309 on: July 18, 2015, 10:28:32 PM »
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I'm gonna make a serious effort to make Ariel this year. I'd like to speak to you all, in person! No, I'm not Jo in disguise, although, I'd almost like to talk to her too.

I've never been to Ariel, I would like to go this year, but will have to see how things are going. I have a lot on my plate at the moment. I've met a few people from here. two of them stopped by, and the others I have met through phone calls, or Skype.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #1310 on: July 18, 2015, 10:43:05 PM »
Well, I'm the right age, and I could easily be made to look like the Cooper sketch, I think I can win the costume contest!
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #1311 on: July 18, 2015, 10:44:19 PM »
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Well, I'm the right age, and I could easily be made to look like the Cooper sketch, I think I can win the costume contest!


Just where were you November 24, 1971  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #1312 on: July 18, 2015, 10:46:19 PM »
I'm the right age, now. In 1971, I was... 1.  :P
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #1313 on: July 18, 2015, 10:50:57 PM »
+1  8)
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #1314 on: July 18, 2015, 11:51:53 PM »
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Tough...perhaps...but not far fetched. There's a somewhat documented connection, Tina says he was nice, gentlemen like...she wanted to like him. Flo says similar, Himmelsbach says he used prisoner speak...who do you believe? I believe to two who talked to Cooper. Mabey details are not to be released? Surely that's a possibility, a a specific word, just might be it, perhaps Himmelsbach is right, but...I doubt it. I dunno, I guess I base most of that theory, on the interview immediately after, the news conference at Reno, Tina is clearly, displaced, for lack of a better word.  Affected. There was some ... connection .. perhaps akin to Stockholm syndrome, and Cooper carried it, Tina, tried to forget it, but Cooper, wanted..to help her, the only way possible, $$$. Yes...this is conjecture...any investigation begins with...speculation. It's conjecture, for sure...but not out of the realm of real possibility.

If you are referring to the news conference with the entire six person flight crew, I believe it was held in Minneapolis no earlier than the evening following the hijacking.  The hijacked airliner was flown from Reno back to Seattle (presumably by Scott, Rataczak, and Anderson with Tina onboard) the day following the hijacking.

The NWA Seattle Station Manager wrote a memo (available on the WSHM's web page) on how he kept the crew from talking to anyone in Seattle and had them on a flight to Minneapolis within minutes.  The hijacked airliner was repaired overnight in Seattle and returned to service the second day after the hijacking.

A number of things are very obvious in the picture of the entire crew's news conference.  I believe all three of the cockpit crew members have their arms crossed which, in this situation, strongly suggests that they have "closed shop" and are completely "turned off".  One of the flight attendants is facing 90 degrees from the audience and isn't even looking at it.  The other two flight attendants appear to have something else on their mind.  Overall, the six crew members do not appear to be cooperating with the media and wish they were somewhere else.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #1315 on: July 19, 2015, 12:15:30 AM »
This conference.
Wow, I guess I never realized the time may be...later. The time/date at the top of the reel says 5:38 11-25 . The reporter at one point says, "gotten off the plane before landing here".
Yeah, Scott seems off too. Closed. Been talked too, don't talk. That type of demeanor.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #1316 on: July 19, 2015, 12:23:20 AM »
My guess would be Northwest told them not to say anything to the media.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #1317 on: July 19, 2015, 12:28:20 AM »
It seems to be in Reno. Right before the Scott and Tina statements, the caption says "KOLO-TV" KOLO is still today, Reno, NV. For sure, NW said, don't say anything. Still, that doesn't dictate a demeanor. It implies a demeanor, but doesn't dictate it.  Well, the background gives it away, you can see the R and E an N just not the O.
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #1318 on: July 19, 2015, 12:33:56 AM »
sign behind them says Reno  ;) ;)
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Re: Tina Bar Money Find
« Reply #1319 on: July 19, 2015, 01:40:20 AM »
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Chance response. What's a person gonna say, in the 5-10 seconds they have to respond,  when offered $$ by someone who's just hijacked the plane.

But had time for a conspiracy?

one of the problems I have is it's really not buried. the money was just under the surface, and why would Cooper risk the money not being found, or found and not reported...


or found by someone else first! And how is she supposed to find it! Map? X on the sand?  Friendly bird in nearby tree waiting? Oh know - the money sings?  ::) ::) ::) 
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