Yes, it's the reverse side. it's folded over showing one of the columns of the white house. you can see three different bills from that point.

So, how did the creases get into the top bill? where it says "This note is legal tender" is pretty skewed....it was forced to that position.

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Yes, it's the reverse side. it's folded over showing one of the columns of the white house. you can see three different bills from that point.

So, how did the creases get into the top bill? where it says "This note is legal tender" is pretty skewed....it was forced to that position.

Yes that's interesting. Either something got folded over somehow or this is a face-to-face situation, perhaps one bundle against another, and at an angle? Fragments pressed against fragments? There has to be the physical space for this folding or matings of different bills to happen and then come together on one specimen? Some bills fairly well aligned in a stack, others askew ... in nature. A sign of turbulence?
   

Possibly, I don't know. other bundles seem to also have nicks in them. I don't know if this is from insects though?

Bundles 4,9,10, and 12

ADDED: The fold in the bill could of been stopped by the rubber band. it's a pretty straight fold?

Did anyone ever verify three sets of rubber bands?

Maybe the bundles got run over by some equipment on the beach after they were deposited under the sand.  I doubt if someone just stepping on them would do that much damage.

I'm thinking impact as another thought?

I doubt if a 10,000 foot free fall would do the job

I think this would be the quickest test out of all of them to determine something of value? just need similar paper perhaps? then trying to figure out how he tied the bag would be another challenge...

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Yes, it's the reverse side. it's folded over showing one of the columns of the white house. you can see three different bills from that point.

So, how did the creases get into the top bill? where it says "This note is legal tender" is pretty skewed....it was forced to that position.

Yes that's interesting. Either something got folded over somehow or this is a face-to-face situation, perhaps one bundle against another, and at an angle? Fragments pressed against fragments? There has to be the physical space for this folding or matings of different bills to happen and then come together on one specimen? Some bills fairly well aligned in a stack, others askew ... in nature. A sign of turbulence?
   

Possibly, I don't know. other bundles seem to also have nicks in them. I don't know if this is from insects though?

Bundles 4,9,10, and 12

A central issue for me is how much space is required to have some of these 'matings' of bills or fragments of bills happen? We have examples of simple shifting or rotations of bills or bill fragments where the bills are front-to-back. Now we may have folding or even front-to-front alignment which requires more space. (Some bundles or parts of bundles tumbling relative to each other?)

   

Maybe the bundles got run over by some equipment on the beach after they were deposited under the sand.  I doubt if someone just stepping on them would do that much damage.

I have wondered the same. The money sitting on the table at Portland looks 'weathered' to put it mildly. Actual physical-mechanical damage? I have wondered do some of these biils look 'sand blasted'? However, right after Tom got his three bills and got a look at them, he emailed and remarked how 'smooth' the surfaces looked. He seemed surprised? That surprised me given how the money looks in the Portland photo. We noted the fact and moved on but Ive always wondered how typical those three bills are or if they were somehow smoothed out or pressed after the FBI got and printed them ...?

Unless it turned on the stack I doubt anything would happen. I think they were in this basic condition when they arrived, then just started falling apart. I'm working with a lift right now. I bet I could put money under it and roll right over it. sand is on site too....depending on the width of the tires it will spread the weight around a larger area....if it did turn on the stack, I'm guessing again that it would have to be wet to allow the bills to shift. it they are stuck together, they would probably move together?

Dave I dont think that's a comparable experiment unless you do this on a beach     Funny.

I edited-added to my post above. 

In fact, I not sure what kind of tractor or dozer the Faxio used to move the sand?  Wheels? Tracks?  I think it was just an old Ford tractor with a blade ... like grandpa hand. I grew upon one of those things!

I have access to these machines in the photo. they have the basic tread that dates back to that period....it would be a basic tractor tire, term wise.