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Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #45 on:** May 01, 2020, 06:12:05 PM »

Happy Hunting:

Here ya go:

Diane Dalbey
135 State St.
Sedro Wooley, WA 98284
360. 421. 1112

I spoke with her and the author in January 2019. I had a long chat with the author, and we promised to meet with each other the next time I was in his area.

Diane is primarily trying to sell copies of the book. She says there are 1,000 copies left from the initial printing back in the 1980s. Current list price is $39.95. A tad over-priced in my view.

She mailed me a copy of the book and a short note back in early 2019, which got this whole thing going.

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #46 on:** May 01, 2020, 06:25:29 PM »

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Another Cooper Treasure Hunt

The author of HA, HA, HA, who name I do not know... I've spoken with the author a couple of years ago, and here's what I know.

The author grew up in Vancouver, WA, and wrote HA, HA, HA based upon what he could glean from newspaper accounts at the public library, and coupled that with what he thought was Cooper's back story, heavily influence by his speculation that Cooper was a criminal. The back story has a 50's TV feel to it.

I'm curious - In your talk with him, did he address why, in his version, he has Cooper jumping not over Washington, but later, on the approach to Reno?

Here are some tidbits from my notes, as I decipher my handwriting....

1. Author will respond to correspondence at:

PO Box 2069
Mt. Vernon, WA

2. Author stated that all of his DB Cooper "facts" came from public sources, such as newspapers and TV broadcasts. I assume that means the jump in Reno, too.

3. Diane estimates the author to be in his late 70s.

4. Author says that he doesn't want "any more heat from the FBI." Not sure what kind of heat he has experienced, but his story sounds convoluted. There is a drama concerning who printed the first 25,000 copies, and where 14,000 copies went. Author and Diane currently have 11,000 copies to sell. Diane said there was a lot of media interest when the book was published in the early 1980s and the FBI got involved. Diane said the feds prevented their scheduled appearance on the Letterman Show in 1983.

5. Author says that he is masking his identity to protect his current business interests. He says he is "very public."

Robert99 · « **Reply #47 on:** May 01, 2020, 07:06:47 PM »

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Another Cooper Treasure Hunt

The author of HA, HA, HA, who name I do not know... I've spoken with the author a couple of years ago, and here's what I know.

The author grew up in Vancouver, WA, and wrote HA, HA, HA based upon what he could glean from newspaper accounts at the public library, and coupled that with what he thought was Cooper's back story, heavily influence by his speculation that Cooper was a criminal. The back story has a 50's TV feel to it.

I'm curious - In your talk with him, did he address why, in his version, he has Cooper jumping not over Washington, but later, on the approach to Reno?

Here are some tidbits from my notes, as I decipher my handwriting....

1. Author will respond to correspondence at:

PO Box 2069
Mt. Vernon, WA

2. Author stated that all of his DB Cooper "facts" came from public sources, such as newspapers and TV broadcasts. I assume that means the jump in Reno, too.

3. Diane estimates the author to be in his late 70s.

4. Author says that he doesn't want "any more heat from the FBI." Not sure what kind of heat he has experienced, but his story sounds convoluted. There is a drama concerning who printed the first 25,000 copies, and where 14,000 copies went. Author and Diane currently have 11,000 copies to sell. Diane said there was a lot of media interest when the book was published in the early 1980s and the FBI got involved. Diane said the feds prevented their scheduled appearance on the Letterman Show in 1983.

5. Author says that he is masking his identity to protect his current business interests. He says he is "very public."

Bruce, do you remember the first Expedition Unknown telecast on the Cooper matter? If you are having a hard time remembering it, just remember that you were in it as were a couple of other people on this thread. If my memory is correct, the producers of that telecast stated in the program that the Cooper jump at Reno scenario was suggested by a former FBI agent in the Seattle area.

I have never heard of anyone else suggesting a jump at Reno. So maybe this is the same fellow.

dudeman17 · « **Reply #48 on:** May 01, 2020, 09:04:29 PM »

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I have never heard of anyone else suggesting a jump at Reno. So maybe this is the same fellow.

I've been skydiving since '79. Some years ago, probably late 90's - early 2000's, I was jumping regularly at a small central California dz, and this guy hung out there for a while who had been an active jumper in the 60's-70's. He had written a book. (For the life of me, I can't remember the guy's name or the name of his book.) The main plot and characters of his book were fiction, but it was set in that 60's-70's era of skydiving and contained real-life people and events. In the last half of the book as a secondary plot, he had a character pull off the skyjacking. He didn't use the name or say that it was national news, but it was clearly the Cooper caper. Well, in his version, he also had the skyjacker jumping on the approach to Reno. I wasn't really following the case at the time, so I don't think I asked him about it, but when I heard that Ha Ha Ha had the same scenario, it caught my attention.

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #49 on:** May 01, 2020, 11:30:21 PM »

Jumping at Reno

The first time I heard of a Reno jump was the recent posting by the FBI agent who also appeared in the Expedition Unknown episode that Robert99, Meyer, and I were in. I forget the FBI's guy's name.

As for HA, HA, HA selecting Reno, I don't specifically remember that. Frankly, I skimmed the book when I got it from Diane over a year ago.

Lastly, there is something about Reno. Perhaps, it's a portal into the Vortex. Robb Heady stole his plane in Reno, and at least one other hijacked plane landed in Reno.

Lastly, lastly, I have lost my copy of HA, HA, HA. I think it walked at CooperCon 2019....

georger · « **Reply #50 on:** May 01, 2020, 11:40:09 PM »

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Jumping at Reno

The first time I heard of a Reno jump was the recent posting by the FBI agent who also appeared in the Expedition Unknown episode that Robert99, Meyer, and I were in. I forget the FBI's guy's name.

As for HA, HA, HA selecting Reno, I don't specifically remember that. Frankly, I skimmed the book when I got it from Diane over a year ago.

Lastly, there is something about Reno. Perhaps, it's a portal into the Vortex. Robb Heady stole his plane in Reno, and at least one other hijacked plane landed in Reno.

Lastly, lastly, I have lost my copy of HA, HA, HA. I think it walked at CooperCon 2019....

Is the Reno jump guy named - GEORGE somebody? He made a strong pitch.

He isnt Johnny Green!

Does Johny Green have his ears and nipples pierced, and tats on his lips? And a law degree?

georger · « **Reply #51 on:** May 02, 2020, 12:26:35 AM »

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New episode out tonight! DB Cooper and The Thrill of the Chase with Mindy Fausey and Stephanie Thirtyacre. They believe Forrest Fenn could be DB Cooper. If you've never heard of Forrest Fenn I'd highly recommend it, if you have heard of him then I know you'll listen.

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Darren please explain the mechanics of your podcasts? What software is used etc? Zoom, Skype, Cisco Meeting, ?? Or just over a telephone?

Darren · « **Reply #52 on:** May 02, 2020, 01:03:22 PM »

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Darren please explain the mechanics of your podcasts? What software is used etc? Zoom, Skype, Cisco Meeting, ?? Or just over a telephone?

While I definitely prefer to do the interview in person, that isn’t always possible. My second choice is to use a program called Zencastr, because it allows us to record the tracks separately so if we briefly talk over each other Russell can fix that without losing anything. My last choice is to do it over the phone, but with the equipment I have now that isn’t too bad.

I hope this question means you’re considering coming on.

georger · « **Reply #53 on:** May 02, 2020, 02:22:40 PM »

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Darren please explain the mechanics of your podcasts? What software is used etc? Zoom, Skype, Cisco Meeting, ?? Or just over a telephone?

While I definitely prefer to do the interview in person, that isn’t always possible. My second choice is to use a program called Zencastr, because it allows us to record the tracks separately so if we briefly talk over each other Russell can fix that without losing anything. My last choice is to do it over the phone, but with the equipment I have now that isn’t too bad.

I hope this question means you’re considering coming on.

So each participant must have Zencastr ?

Have you ever considered using Zoom? We have a neighborhood-golf course block party (sing along) every Sat night now - everyone is using Zoom. One guy's nine year old son is running the Zoom chat taking comments and requests. It's hilarious and everyone is enjoying it - people setting up on the golf course well spaced in lawn chairs ... police now running a patrol (to applause) singing along. So far its private not being opened to the world.

Darren · « **Reply #54 on:** May 02, 2020, 02:40:47 PM »

No, I just email a link and the guest is taken to the Zencastr page recording session. The only issue I have with it is it doesn’t support Internet Explorer anymore, and if my guest doesn’t have Chrome, Firefox, or Safari then they’ll have to download one of those.

I don’t use Zoom because as far as I know it won’t allow me to record the tracks separately, and I don’t do video.

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #55 on:** May 03, 2020, 04:24:54 AM »

Chrome seems to be a necessity these days. Zoom and other applications require it or recommend it. But if and when you download Chrome (free) from their site, one has to double-click the download button. It took me three days to figure that one out.

Remember, Cousin Brucie told ya!

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #56 on:** May 03, 2020, 04:25:58 AM »

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No, I just email a link and the guest is taken to the Zencastr page recording session. The only issue I have with it is it doesn’t support Internet Explorer anymore, and if my guest doesn’t have Chrome, Firefox, or Safari then they’ll have to download one of those.

I don’t use Zoom because as far as I know it won’t allow me to record the tracks separately, and I don’t do video.

It works fine, Georger. I highly encourage you to do a session with Darren. He is top-notch.

nickyb233 · « **Reply #57 on:** May 03, 2020, 06:16:16 AM »

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I have never heard of anyone else suggesting a jump at Reno. So maybe this is the same fellow.

I've been skydiving since '79. Some years ago, probably late 90's - early 2000's, I was jumping regularly at a small central California dz, and this guy hung out there for a while who had been an active jumper in the 60's-70's. He had written a book. (For the life of me, I can't remember the guy's name or the name of his book.) The main plot and characters of his book were fiction, but it was set in that 60's-70's era of skydiving and contained real-life people and events. In the last half of the book as a secondary plot, he had a character pull off the skyjacking. He didn't use the name or say that it was national news, but it was clearly the Cooper caper. Well, in his version, he also had the skyjacker jumping on the approach to Reno. I wasn't really following the case at the time, so I don't think I asked him about it, but when I heard that Ha Ha Ha had the same scenario, it caught my attention.

The guys name was Brian Williams and he wrote it under the pen name Pat Dunbar, the book is titled A Dark Night and it’s a great read. It’s rumored that Brian had inside information on how cooper skyjacked flight 305 and included it in his book. In his story cooper jumped on it’s descent into Reno and also deployed a parachute off the stairs to simulate the pressure bump over the known dz. He also brought his own chute on board and hid it in the briefcase bomb. The book offers a good explanation for how cooper could of pulled it off.

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Robert99 · « **Reply #58 on:** May 03, 2020, 02:20:32 PM »

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I have never heard of anyone else suggesting a jump at Reno. So maybe this is the same fellow.

I've been skydiving since '79. Some years ago, probably late 90's - early 2000's, I was jumping regularly at a small central California dz, and this guy hung out there for a while who had been an active jumper in the 60's-70's. He had written a book. (For the life of me, I can't remember the guy's name or the name of his book.) The main plot and characters of his book were fiction, but it was set in that 60's-70's era of skydiving and contained real-life people and events. In the last half of the book as a secondary plot, he had a character pull off the skyjacking. He didn't use the name or say that it was national news, but it was clearly the Cooper caper. Well, in his version, he also had the skyjacker jumping on the approach to Reno. I wasn't really following the case at the time, so I don't think I asked him about it, but when I heard that Ha Ha Ha had the same scenario, it caught my attention.

The guys name was Brian Williams and he wrote it under the pen name Pat Dunbar, the book is titled A Dark Night and it’s a great read. It’s rumored that Brian had inside information on how cooper skyjacked flight 305 and included it in his book. In his story cooper jumped on it’s descent into Reno and also deployed a parachute off the stairs to simulate the pressure bump over the known dz. He also brought his own chute on board and hid it in the briefcase bomb. The book offers a good explanation for how cooper could of pulled it off.

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Please elaborate on how he "brought his own chute on board and hid it in the briefcase bomb." Whoever wrote that has obviously never seen a parachute.

dudeman17 · « **Reply #59 on:** May 03, 2020, 04:06:30 PM »

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I have never heard of anyone else suggesting a jump at Reno. So maybe this is the same fellow.

I've been skydiving since '79. Some years ago, probably late 90's - early 2000's, I was jumping regularly at a small central California dz, and this guy hung out there for a while who had been an active jumper in the 60's-70's. He had written a book. (For the life of me, I can't remember the guy's name or the name of his book.) The main plot and characters of his book were fiction, but it was set in that 60's-70's era of skydiving and contained real-life people and events. In the last half of the book as a secondary plot, he had a character pull off the skyjacking. He didn't use the name or say that it was national news, but it was clearly the Cooper caper. Well, in his version, he also had the skyjacker jumping on the approach to Reno. I wasn't really following the case at the time, so I don't think I asked him about it, but when I heard that Ha Ha Ha had the same scenario, it caught my attention.

The guys name was Brian Williams and he wrote it under the pen name Pat Dunbar, the book is titled A Dark Night and it’s a great read. It’s rumored that Brian had inside information on how cooper skyjacked flight 305 and included it in his book. In his story cooper jumped on it’s descent into Reno and also deployed a parachute off the stairs to simulate the pressure bump over the known dz. He also brought his own chute on board and hid it in the briefcase bomb. The book offers a good explanation for how cooper could of pulled it off.

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Wow, that's right. I'm curious how you came across that to read it. A few of us at the dz read it because he had a couple copies, but we didn't get to keep them. I was never sure how widely published or distributed it was.

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