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hey darren and martin, so i made my parents listen to the part in the new episode where you talked about how you don't think tina or any of the flight crew was in on it, because after watching some stupid show they believed that they were in on it and it was an inside job and was able to change their minds

There was a fictional TV show a few years back called "Leverage". One of the episodes was called "The D.B. Cooper Job". That was pretty much what they portrayed in that show. If I remember correctly Tina (don't recall if they used her real name or an alias), and Cooper were lovers and escaped with the money....until someone at the FBI figured it out years later. It was a pretty bad show. They even had Cooper wearing a hat during the hijacking, a Fedora if I remember correctly.

They make solving the case seem pretty damn easy...

yes that was what they watched! and they made me watch it with them and i told them the whole time that it was inaccurate and they told me to be quiet when they barely know shit about db cooper other than the fact that he hijacked/jumped out of a plane. not that i have as much knowledge as you guys do since you guys have access to a lot more stuff than i do but i feel like i know a lot.

A few things heard on the podcast..

The one thing me and Flyjack have always agreed on is the possibility the placard didn't come from 305. FJ found dozens of safety cards surrounding the rear stairs. none have been found showing the emergency release. recently, I noticed looking at the plane after it landed that the stairs were down and locked. had Cooper used the emergency system the stairs would no longer lock. then, FJ posted a picture showing the inside of the plane and the emergency system was not on 305. these are critical problems validating the placard came from 305.

The part found north of the placard was not described as fiberglass. it was described as a part and not a piece of a larger part.

The Air Force map. the Air Force had to track every plane in the sky marking them friend or foe. they also had the civilian radar that airports use across the country. I'm not sure where the data came from in actually plotting the map. the sage radar had limited memory but could recall an event.

Chris, don't be discouraged with presenting things. I know how you feel. I released the first files (302's) surrounding the flight crew and the response was nothing to speak about..

New episode out now! DB Cooper was not successful with Chris “Chaucer” Cunningham. Enjoy!

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Excellent job by both parties.

When you look at the test drop photo's the door doesn't close all the way either. speeds of 150 vs 170 could be a factor with the difference in recoil. we now have photo's from the inside and outside view of the stairs and the control box with no indication the emergency system was installed on 305. I'm guessing the stuntman was probably close to Coopers weight. some of the 727's added the feature later. even if the release was in the main control box we would see it in the interior photo's from the test flight. the crew was obviously in the front of the plane. the term slamming shut isn't an observation but one of sound and what could be heard and physically felt?

Another clip from the movie is just as interesting. it shows Robert Duvall pulling the stairs down and they don't lock. this implies the stairs were in a free fall position.

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I think a lot of people overlook the fact of Cooper being a criminal. I think it was a Facebook post Marla Cooper made when someone asked her her Uncle being Cooper. her response was "isn't it great". personally, I find that offensive IMHO.

Well said, Shutter. If my grandfather was being promoted as Cooper, I would be trying to clear his name, not spinning it as a positive. The Cooper case is extremely fascinating, but Cooper should not be venerated as a saint.

Good podcast, well down Chaucer and Darren.

Marty's episode will be out very soon. Russell went to Mexico for his honeymoon, and my father-in-law died unexpectedly from cancer at 57 a week ago today, and now my mother-in-law is living in my office. It's been a rough few weeks.

My deepest condolences to your family, Darren.