Author Topic: Suspects And Confessions (Read 1563247 times)

MarkBennett · « **Reply #855 on:** August 06, 2015, 06:56:48 PM »

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I have a question about Kenny Christiansen and would like to hear some opinions. If KC and Bernie Geestman were partners in the caper, why didn't Bernie Geestman loan his sister money from his share, instead of having Kenny loan her the money? Thoughts?

I mentioned that several times on the DZ. I forget Roberts response. just months after the crime too. I think the whole story is questionable. he takes a lot of things out of context. I have lots of proof now....I'll release it later down the road.

A possible answer -- and this would be true whether Kenny had anything to do with Cooper or not -- is maybe Bernie was the one who lent the money to his sister. He might have figured his sister would be more diligent about paying it back if she thought it came from someone outside her family.

Shutter · « **Reply #856 on:** August 06, 2015, 07:00:29 PM »

What's funny is she was paying back more than Kenny was making in a month! with a new mortgage to boot....not buying it.

nmiwrecks · « **Reply #857 on:** August 06, 2015, 11:51:12 PM »

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I have a question about Kenny Christiansen and would like to hear some opinions. If KC and Bernie Geestman were partners in the caper, why didn't Bernie Geestman loan his sister money from his share, instead of having Kenny loan her the money? Thoughts?

I mentioned that several times on the DZ. I forget Roberts response. just months after the crime too. I think the whole story is questionable. he takes a lot of things out of context. I have lots of proof now....I'll release it later down the road.

A possible answer -- and this would be true whether Kenny had anything to do with Cooper or not -- is maybe Bernie was the one who lent the money to his sister. He might have figured his sister would be more diligent about paying it back if she thought it came from someone outside her family.

That is plausible. Of course, selling Kenny the idea of loaning money to Bernie's sister because he's afraid she won't pay him back is a tough sell!

Shutter · « **Reply #858 on:** August 07, 2015, 06:59:08 AM »

$5,000 in 1972 was a huge amount of money. that's almost $30,000 today!

Would anyone hear loan that much, or even co-sign for a loan that large?

MarkBennett · « **Reply #859 on:** August 07, 2015, 10:12:37 AM »

That story is a classic case of confirmation bias. Robert so wanted to believe that story because it fit his narrative, he accepted it as true and didn't follow up on it.

georger · « **Reply #860 on:** August 07, 2015, 06:03:16 PM »

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That story is a classic case of confirmation bias. Robert so wanted to believe that story because it fit his narrative, he accepted it as true and didn't follow up on it.

I dont see Blevins as that naive and gullible. What I see is a person actively trying to build a story/claim so he can have some piece of the Cooper Candidate Market place. It failed. And he became the Venom Magnet and destroyed his credibility in the process.

If it had not been Kenny it would have been somebody else, if he could find an eligible target. Porteous said: "He's one of the smartest investigators I ever knew!". Woahh! I guess that certification backfired also! It was the Decoded program that pulled their fat out of the fire and gave them credibility, temporary. Enough to monopolize Dropzone for over five years until DZ pulled the plug with a vengeance!

Porteous and Blevins should have left Kenny right where he was, in Geoff Gray's hands.

That sums the whole fiasco up.

Shutter · « **Reply #861 on:** August 07, 2015, 06:14:29 PM »

I think Skipp just skipped through a lot of the checking. he missed things that we found. it appears nobody has any financial records to even prove she could do all of this on her own. I have a feeling she was married at the time too. I found records of two marriages, and no divorce's. I think he's just about out of yarn to spin

(and members)

georger · « **Reply #862 on:** August 07, 2015, 11:23:43 PM »

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I think Skipp just skipped through a lot of the checking. he missed things that we found. it appears nobody has any financial records to even prove she could do all of this on her own. I have a feeling she was married at the time too. I found records of two marriages, and no divorce's. I think he's just about out of yarn to spin (and members)

Somehow I doubt Porteous even had the time for much in-depth work on this ... he turned it over to Blevins.B.I.

Geoff covered the essentials. Then of course Blevins had Geoff cut off. Maybe Tom Kaye will save it all for them !?

Meanwhile back at the carnival arcade things are cooking. Ketchup dog on ice cream on a bun, anyone?

MarkBennett · « **Reply #863 on:** August 08, 2015, 10:41:21 AM »

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That story is a classic case of confirmation bias. Robert so wanted to believe that story because it fit his narrative, he accepted it as true and didn't follow up on it.

I dont see Blevins as that naive and gullible. What I see is a person actively trying to build a story/claim so he can have some piece of the Cooper Candidate Market place. It failed. And he became the Venom Magnet and destroyed his credibility in the process.

If it had not been Kenny it would have been somebody else, if he could find an eligible target. Porteous said: "He's one of the smartest investigators I ever knew!". Woahh! I guess that certification backfired also! It was the Decoded program that pulled their fat out of the fire and gave them credibility, temporary. Enough to monopolize Dropzone for over five years until DZ pulled the plug with a vengeance!

Porteous and Blevins should have left Kenny right where he was, in Geoff Gray's hands.

That sums the whole fiasco up.

I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt, sometimes when I shouldn't.

The one part of Robert's story that always kind of pulled over to what you're saying is this analogy:

How often if your significant other accuses you of cheating does it turn out that he/she is the one cheating? Or the one accusing someone of theft is a thief?

Robert's hysterical reaction to Marla -- she made it all up, lied to the FBI, did it all just to write a book, etc. -- is almost exactly what he appears to be doing. We have a lot of people on this forums with a favorite candidate and they are just as firm in their beliefs. But, with the exception of Jo sometimes, they are general respectful of others.

That would be why even though I still might disagree with you, Georger, I do have a feeling deep down that you might be right.

Shutter · « **Reply #864 on:** August 08, 2015, 11:35:50 AM »

I see him as extremely gullible. he flip flops through everything he does. he changes his mind to fit the current situation at hand.

He doesn't seem to grasp how hard it would be for a SINGLE mother with several kids having a new mortgage, and obviously higher monthly bills along with the new house, and yet pay off a huge loan very quickly? he's going strictly on the word from these people. no checking out the story. he finds them reliable since they are family? even though he claims Skipp did a thorough check on these people.

He states he got the idea that Kenny paid cash for his house from Gray's book. "Kenny purchased a home in Bonney Lake" so, how did Carolyn Powell come to the same conclusion? it's all a matter of taking things out of context, and gullibility wrapped into one giant mess.

His site is full of trash talking about a couple posters from here. his "moderator" doesn't even know what that term implies with personal attacks coming from this individual. something they are supposed to stop, or control as a moderator! now, it appears he has lost the best poster he had because of double standards, and personal promotions. Robert has been leaving the Cooper saga since he joined in 2010 on Dropzone, and much like what happened to the Cooper thread on the DZ compares pretty good to Robert. "it's run it's course". my term would be "Game Over"

Shutter · « **Reply #865 on:** August 08, 2015, 11:56:02 AM »

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Robert's hysterical reaction to Marla -- she made it all up, lied to the FBI, did it all just to write a book, etc. -- is almost exactly what he appears to be doing.

I've been stating this for some time now. Marla, and Robert seem to be a carbon copy of each other. they both had a book in mind from the start. they both have claims of super memory, and both have claims as a child remembering things a normal person wouldn't. Marla admitted to reading up on the story, and Robert claims these people watched the thread on DZ, and then the new story came out of the little girl with the vivid memory of a small piece in time she had absolutely no reason to recall? Marla as a child recalls seeing them building something in the garage, while Roberts witness recalls seeing them building something in a shed?

Nobody backed up Marla's claims, and Robert seems to have the same problem, but he wishes to speak for all? what type of person could come up with wild stories such as these? perhaps a Sci-Fi writer, one who constantly needs to come up with neat little tales for a book? perhaps you might not think he's gullible, but I'll bet he hopes you are!

If two people tell him something it doesn't mean the truth, it becomes a fact!

georger · « **Reply #866 on:** August 08, 2015, 01:44:07 PM »

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Robert's hysterical reaction to Marla -- she made it all up, lied to the FBI, did it all just to write a book, etc. -- is almost exactly what he appears to be doing.

I've been stating this for some time now. Marla, and Robert seem to be a carbon copy of each other. they both had a book in mind from the start. they both have claims of super memory, and both have claims as a child remembering things a normal person wouldn't. Marla admitted to reading up on the story, and Robert claims these people watched the thread on DZ, and then the new story came out of the little girl with the vivid memory of a small piece in time she had absolutely no reason to recall? Marla as a child recalls seeing them building something in the garage, while Roberts witness recalls seeing them building something in a shed?

Nobody backed up Marla's claims, and Robert seems to have the same problem, but he wishes to speak for all? what type of person could come up with wild stories such as these? perhaps a Sci-Fi writer, one who constantly needs to come up with neat little tales for a book? perhaps you might not think he's gullible, but I'll be he hopes you are!

If two people tell him something it doesn't mean the truth, it becomes a fact!

Well let's be serious about this -

Nobody with a brain is going to take Blevins seriously, and there are at lest 200 reasons why! Yes, he good at stirring up controversy but only for a while. I mean, how much dung can you dump without the neighbors finally noticing?

Good luck Bobby. You had your fifteen minutes of almost-fame ...

Shutter · « **Reply #867 on:** August 08, 2015, 01:53:36 PM »

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Well let's be serious about this -

Nobody with a brain is going to take Blevins seriously, and there are at lest 200 reasons why! Yes, he good at stirring up controversy but only for a while. I mean, how much dung can you dump without the neighbors finally noticing?

Good luck Bobby. You had your fifteen minutes of almost-fame ...

Agreed....

MarkBennett · « **Reply #868 on:** August 08, 2015, 02:21:43 PM »

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Well let's be serious about this -

Nobody with a brain is going to take Blevins seriously, and there are at lest 200 reasons why! Yes, he good at stirring up controversy but only for a while. I mean, how much dung can you dump without the neighbors finally noticing?

Good luck Bobby. You had your fifteen minutes of almost-fame ...

Agreed....

Me, too.

nmiwrecks · « **Reply #869 on:** August 18, 2015, 09:52:42 AM »

I'm putting this under "Suspect and Confessions" because it's something I think we can apply to all suspects. The composite sketches were created by having eyewitnesses look through books with images of foreheads, eyes, noses, mouths, etc., and picking out the ones that most resemble the suspect. Those images are then compiled into a face that supposedly resembles the suspect. I'm going to create some images using features from the FBI composite sketches and comparing them with known suspects.

Are there any suspects you would like to see compared to the sketches composite style?

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