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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #690 on: January 30, 2015, 01:40:07 PM »
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Gregor ... there's very little evidence that KC (I'm presuming that's Kenny Christensen) has ever worked with NWA. I think relation between him and Tina is same as "Apple is on the table, table is on the ground, so apple is on ground" ... I guess most of us have resigned to sheer sensationalism here ...


Whoa, Thou-Thingy, Kenny didn't work for NWO!  Yikes-

So, any thoughts on where he did work?


I am not entirely sure however I have a vague memory of reading somewhere that the family stated that he worked very briefly with NWA and then left for some Latin American airline or something.
Honestly my "belief" is that that picture was probably taken for taking a picture in an airline uniform, in 70s especially in early 70s that is highly likely.
Also I may be wrong here, however isn't he wearing the captains stripes? Can someone verify that? If yes then the uniform was definitely nothing but a costume party gig.
Nope sir ... still not the same gal ... again pick up the photos of anyone (especially someone known), compare from childhood to old age and you'd know without much ado if its the same person or not. It doesn't change only coz you are now comparing a person of interest. Mind has a way of playing with us ... and that is what I see here. The pictures on Bruce's site (the parking lot ones around the car) looked more like hers.



I disagree with you 1000.


I look at the pics and I see the same person. Here is Tina as taken by Galen Cook...the other by the reporter and given color by the shutter man.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #691 on: January 30, 2015, 02:09:56 PM »
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Gregor ... there's very little evidence that KC (I'm presuming that's Kenny Christensen) has ever worked with NWA. I think relation between him and Tina is same as "Apple is on the table, table is on the ground, so apple is on ground" ... I guess most of us have resigned to sheer sensationalism here ...


Whoa, Thou-Thingy, Kenny didn't work for NWO!  Yikes-

So, any thoughts on where he did work?


I am not entirely sure however I have a vague memory of reading somewhere that the family stated that he worked very briefly with NWA and then left for some Latin American airline or something.
Honestly my "belief" is that that picture was probably taken for taking a picture in an airline uniform, in 70s especially in early 70s that is highly likely.
Also I may be wrong here, however isn't he wearing the captains stripes? Can someone verify that? If yes then the uniform was definitely nothing but a costume party gig.
Nope sir ... still not the same gal ... again pick up the photos of anyone (especially someone known), compare from childhood to old age and you'd know without much ado if its the same person or not. It doesn't change only coz you are now comparing a person of interest. Mind has a way of playing with us ... and that is what I see here. The pictures on Bruce's site (the parking lot ones around the car) looked more like hers.



I disagree with you 1000.


I look at the pics and I see the same person. Here is Tina as taken by Galen Cook...the other by the reporter and given color by the shutter man.

Am I allowed to laugh at the obvious?
 :) :) :) :) :)

Hello Muddah.
Hello Fadduh.
Here I am at ....
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #692 on: January 30, 2015, 04:43:50 PM »
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I look at the pics and I see the same person. Here is Tina as taken by Galen Cook...the other by the reporter and given color by the shutter man.

The hair style seems to be the same. the nose looks pretty close as well. to bad we don't have a front shot of her in the Galen pics. the number, and email was rather simple to find. getting a response is another  :-\
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #693 on: January 30, 2015, 04:51:37 PM »
Regarding the Galen pix - the women in those pix looks like the Tina I met at her front door.

The Paul Neveel pix of Tina does not. Did Tina gain a lot of weight in 13 months?  Maybe.  Is her smile so incongruous to me that it throws off my perception?  Maybe.

Remember, I have a crush on the Tina I met. The Paul Neveel gal, not so much.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #694 on: January 30, 2015, 05:02:49 PM »
Well, we have a pretty big Co-inky-dink.


Tina xxxx worked for an airlines.
Tina xxxx has the same teeth imperfections.
Tina xxxx appears to have the same hair style.
Tina xxxx appears to have the same nose.

I don't think it would be to hard to find the answers on this one.....I can't say 100%, but it looks like her......

How about asking Paul himself, or would he use the "confidentiality" thingy  :(

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #695 on: January 30, 2015, 05:14:16 PM »
Shut, I'm uncomfortable with posting Tina's current last name. I think she hides in plain sight by keeping that veneer of protection.. Since we don't know exactly what is going on with her regarding her health, stability, etc., I think it behooves us to help protect her.  That's why I only refer to Tina as Mucklow. Everyone knows that Tina Mucklow was the hostage aboard 305, and that's all that we really need to go on, publicly. Yes, privately and quietly we can research her by her married name, but I think we need to exercise some caution in a public forum on the Internet.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #696 on: January 30, 2015, 05:20:28 PM »
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Shut, I'm uncomfortable with posting Tina's current last name.

Agreed, and removed....however, any researcher (novice) will find this information easily on DZ, but I do agree with your point...
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #697 on: January 30, 2015, 05:21:46 PM »
I have persisted in making contact with Paul to discuss some of these issues, but he steadfastly refuses to talk with me directly. His behavior fits the whole demeanor of what is going on with the EW piece.

To wit:

1. Pix don't add up.
2. Tina's story in the EW doesn't jive with what I know to be the facts of her life; ie: health issues in 1979 requiring hospitalization, and a residency in the convent starting in 1980.  Yet, Tina in the EW piece says she flew with NWO until she was 32, which would be 1981.
3. Flying to the Orient for five years is complete news to me. I thought she quit flying when she married and moved to California in the mid-1970s.

This begs the question why would Tina do the EW article? Is she trying to discredit Blevins and the KC hypothesis?

Maybe Tina just ate a ton o' pizza after I left her front door steps in 2011??? Maybe she was just fibbing a little to Neveel???
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #698 on: January 30, 2015, 05:23:09 PM »
Thanks, Shut. At this point, the serious researchers can find the name. Wait a minute, you still post it!  Wass up?
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #699 on: January 30, 2015, 05:26:38 PM »
She doesn't look exactly "thin" in the Galen pics. I don't know what to say about things not adding up. since when has this been a new thing?  :o
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #700 on: January 30, 2015, 05:28:18 PM »
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Wait a minute, you still post it!  Wass up?

Still post what?

I see I forgot a sentence  :-[ :-[

Fixed  ;D
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #701 on: January 30, 2015, 06:03:06 PM »
Whew! :)
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #702 on: January 30, 2015, 11:43:54 PM »
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I have persisted in making contact with Paul to discuss some of these issues, but he steadfastly refuses to talk with me directly. His behavior fits the whole demeanor of what is going on with the EW piece.

To wit:

1. Pix don't add up.
2. Tina's story in the EW doesn't jive with what I know to be the facts of her life; ie: health issues in 1979 requiring hospitalization, and a residency in the convent starting in 1980.  Yet, Tina in the EW piece says she flew with NWO until she was 32, which would be 1981.
3. Flying to the Orient for five years is complete news to me. I thought she quit flying when she married and moved to California in the mid-1970s.

This begs the question why would Tina do the EW article? Is she trying to discredit Blevins and the KC hypothesis?

Maybe Tina just ate a ton o' pizza after I left her front door steps in 2011??? Maybe she was just fibbing a little to Neveel???

And for the record, I will say the same thing I said in 2007 about Tina.

I think there is a massive amount of PROJECTION going on when it comes to Tina Mucklow. She probably gave up all she knows or ever knew, a long time ago. And, she isn't going to talk about it unless she wants, in any event!

'She isn't your sister or your friend or your supposed girlfriend! Anyone who proceeds on that basis and thinks they "know" Tina Mucklow or just-must find out (which includes Jo Weber!), is running the risk of forced psychiatric care ... and could get a jail cell to think it over in as their reward!

If Tina Mucklow called me tonight, I would refer her to her family or to Curtis Eng in the Seattle office of the FBI.... or maybe to Bill Rataczak, her long time friend. In other worlds I wouldn't even talk to her for our mutual benefit.

Beyond that I am not going to participate in this F'd up discussion.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #703 on: January 31, 2015, 02:09:32 AM »
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I have persisted in making contact with Paul to discuss some of these issues, but he steadfastly refuses to talk with me directly. His behavior fits the whole demeanor of what is going on with the EW piece.


And for the record, I will say the same thing I said in 2007 about Tina.

If Tina Mucklow called me tonight, I would refer her to her family or to Curtis Eng in the Seattle office of the FBI.... or maybe to Bill Rataczak, her long time friend. In other worlds I wouldn't even talk to her for our mutual benefit.

Beyond that I am not going to participate in this F'd up discussion.
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hmm I agree with you ... let's say that is Tina ... what is the point??
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #704 on: January 31, 2015, 02:20:56 AM »
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Gregor ... there's very little evidence that KC (I'm presuming that's Kenny Christensen) has ever worked with NWA. I think relation between him and Tina is same as "Apple is on the table, table is on the ground, so apple is on ground" ... I guess most of us have resigned to sheer sensationalism here ...


Whoa, Thou-Thingy, Kenny didn't work for NWO!  Yikes-

So, any thoughts on where he did work?


I am not entirely sure however I have a vague memory of reading somewhere that the family stated that he worked very briefly with NWA and then left for some Latin American airline or something.
Honestly my "belief" is that that picture was probably taken for taking a picture in an airline uniform, in 70s especially in early 70s that is highly likely.
Also I may be wrong here, however isn't he wearing the captains stripes? Can someone verify that? If yes then the uniform was definitely nothing but a costume party gig.

The shoulder boards that KC is wearing in the photograph that Georger attached above means that he is a purser.  Also note that he is obviously in an aircraft cabin and not at some costume party.

KC also received a letter, which is available somewhere online, from NWA management congratulating him on his 25th year of service with NWA.

So KC was a long time employee of NWA, and he had paratrooper training in the military, but there is no evidence whatsoever that he was involved in the Cooper hijacking.

source please?