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Offline Bruce A. Smith

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #675 on: January 29, 2015, 03:07:46 AM »
I saw Tina in August 2011 and the pix Paul Neevel took was taken in September 2012. How much aging is a poetry therapist gonna do in 13 months? Actually, the 2012 pix of Tina is not so much an age difference as she is:

1. A lot heavier
2. Smiling
3. Off in the eyes and general shape of the face.

The general consensus of Tina is that she is a solitary person. Few if any friends, minimal social life. Her house had no posted pictures of people that I saw. No cats or dogs, either.  She seems to live an inner life - tidy, artistic, wine wine, Yanni and Enya, beautiful yard and grass. Precise landscaping. Oddly, she drives a car with a handicapped sticker. So does Jane.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #676 on: January 29, 2015, 03:13:01 PM »
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Here is the photo of Tina....
[This doesn't look like Tina ... not even close for that matter]
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #677 on: January 29, 2015, 03:20:16 PM »
Gregor ... there's very little evidence that KC (I'm presuming that's Kenny Christensen) has ever worked with NWA. I think relation between him and Tina is same as "Apple is on the table, table is on the ground, so apple is on ground" ... I guess most of us have resigned to sheer sensationalism here ...
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #678 on: January 29, 2015, 03:22:52 PM »
As far as my theory goes .... well I am sure people from Cooperland will hunt me down for posting that ... anyways visit here if you wanna have a chuckle:

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #679 on: January 29, 2015, 03:35:30 PM »
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Simple logic being if u had stayed for hours with someone u know is a hijacker, you'd remember the face even in ur dreams.

Agreed, some people try to use other cases where descriptions were off, most of these crimes happened in seconds to a few minutes not leaving a lot of time to recall what they seen. you can't compare this to basic crimes. the witnesses were with Cooper for hours vs seconds, or minutes. if anything is going to be skewed I would say the sketch would be more inaccurate than the actual description. some claim the descriptions could be off, but have no problem posting there suspect beside the sketch?

The key words of the above quote are "simple logic". Most of these people with their own suspects choose to use their own logic as opposed to simple logic. For example, Blevins logic would work as follows:

1. Kenny Christiansen was DB Cooper
2. Kenny Christiansen was 5'8", but no witnesses put Cooper at less than 5'10".
3. Thus, it must be impossible to correctly gauge a persons height inside an aircraft.

Here's another one:
1. Kenny Christiansen was DB Cooper
2. Kenny got away with the crime and, as evidenced by the $5000 loan he made, also got away with the money.
3. Thus, the money found at Tina Bar has to be a plant.

Pretty simple stuff, really. :D

I agree that people tend to fit their "beliefs" rather than facts or info that are available. Besides I don't get why are we hell bent on looking at Americans only when his complexion was described as Mediterranean and one really has be a complete dud to continue to live in US post this incident.

Again, I know its like doomsday sayer, however one must remember that Cooper did not have a hair on his face ... which makes him very very recognizable (and kudos to his courage). I think looking at any American who continued to live in US post that is pure waste!
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #680 on: January 29, 2015, 04:30:12 PM »
So where do you suggest that we look for a guy who speaks perfect English with no discernible accent?

Naples?

Ex-pat community in Costa Rica?

Fort Bragg?

Or Sailshaw's personal favorite: a mud-hut in Nepal.

Or perhaps we should be looking for records of a Mediterranean couple whose 6-foot tall son learned to speak English like a native American and knew more about 727s than NWO, and then moved home in late 1971, or at least visited his momma occasionally. Not an easy search, but doable.

I say Naples is the place to start. Remember, DB had good manners, so his momma taught him well.

Could be Sicily, too.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #681 on: January 29, 2015, 04:33:11 PM »
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Gregor ... there's very little evidence that KC (I'm presuming that's Kenny Christensen) has ever worked with NWA. I think relation between him and Tina is same as "Apple is on the table, table is on the ground, so apple is on ground" ... I guess most of us have resigned to sheer sensationalism here ...


Whoa, Thou-Thingy, Kenny didn't work for NWO!  Yikes-

So, any thoughts on where he did work?
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #682 on: January 29, 2015, 06:07:38 PM »
1000, you mixed your comment in with mine......

I'll fix it...

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Shutter says:Here is the photo of Tina....
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1000 said: [This doesn't look like Tina ... not even close for that matter]

I was thinking the same, but if you look at the upper teeth on both photo's (red circle) they appear to be the same imperfections? you might want to save the photo and enlarge it....I see a similarity in the smiles too.

As for Christiansen, I think there is enough proof he did work for NWO......

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #683 on: January 29, 2015, 06:40:32 PM »
I put some color into Tina, maybe this will help?
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #684 on: January 29, 2015, 11:24:10 PM »
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Gregor ... there's very little evidence that KC (I'm presuming that's Kenny Christensen) has ever worked with NWA. I think relation between him and Tina is same as "Apple is on the table, table is on the ground, so apple is on ground" ... I guess most of us have resigned to sheer sensationalism here ...

So his career as purser is make believe?
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« Reply #685 on: January 30, 2015, 02:11:51 AM »
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Gregor ... there's very little evidence that KC (I'm presuming that's Kenny Christensen) has ever worked with NWA. I think relation between him and Tina is same as "Apple is on the table, table is on the ground, so apple is on ground" ... I guess most of us have resigned to sheer sensationalism here ...


Whoa, Thou-Thingy, Kenny didn't work for NWO!  Yikes-

So, any thoughts on where he did work?

You mentioned that Geoffrey Gray was attempting to find and talk to Tina Mucklow also, around the time of your and Galen's inquiries. Can you enlighten us about that?

Did Gray ever talk to Mucklow?


 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #686 on: January 30, 2015, 01:09:30 PM »
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Gregor ... there's very little evidence that KC (I'm presuming that's Kenny Christensen) has ever worked with NWA. I think relation between him and Tina is same as "Apple is on the table, table is on the ground, so apple is on ground" ... I guess most of us have resigned to sheer sensationalism here ...

So his career as purser is make believe?

Yes primarily.

NWA or most airlines maintain a perpetual record of employees especially the ones that are allowed in or around the aircraft, not just for regulatory reasons but also coz an aircraft is almost god like for any airline, and thus one doesn't have to go too far to look for an employee. Whereas in case on Kenny the biggest conjuncture is actually that picture of his (the one in uniform) and his family's insistence. NWA has little to no evidence that he ever worked there.
Flying with Tina &/or same routes etc. is again just a matter of sensationalism and has little truth to it, unfortunately.     
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #687 on: January 30, 2015, 01:16:46 PM »
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1000, you mixed your comment in with mine......

I'll fix it...

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Shutter says:Here is the photo of Tina....
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1000 said: [This doesn't look like Tina ... not even close for that matter]

I was thinking the same, but if you look at the upper teeth on both photo's (red circle) they appear to be the same imperfections? you might want to save the photo and enlarge it....I see a similarity in the smiles too.

As for Christiansen, I think there is enough proof he did work for NWO......

Nope sir ... still not the same gal ... again pick up the photos of anyone (especially someone known), compare from childhood to old age and you'd know without much ado if its the same person or not. It doesn't change only coz you are now comparing a person of interest. Mind has a way of playing with us ... and that is what I see here. The pictures on Bruce's site (the parking lot ones around the car) looked more like hers.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #688 on: January 30, 2015, 01:25:10 PM »
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Gregor ... there's very little evidence that KC (I'm presuming that's Kenny Christensen) has ever worked with NWA. I think relation between him and Tina is same as "Apple is on the table, table is on the ground, so apple is on ground" ... I guess most of us have resigned to sheer sensationalism here ...


Whoa, Thou-Thingy, Kenny didn't work for NWO!  Yikes-

So, any thoughts on where he did work?


I am not entirely sure however I have a vague memory of reading somewhere that the family stated that he worked very briefly with NWA and then left for some Latin American airline or something.
Honestly my "belief" is that that picture was probably taken for taking a picture in an airline uniform, in 70s especially in early 70s that is highly likely.
Also I may be wrong here, however isn't he wearing the captains stripes? Can someone verify that? If yes then the uniform was definitely nothing but a costume party gig.
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« Reply #689 on: January 30, 2015, 01:39:54 PM »
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Gregor ... there's very little evidence that KC (I'm presuming that's Kenny Christensen) has ever worked with NWA. I think relation between him and Tina is same as "Apple is on the table, table is on the ground, so apple is on ground" ... I guess most of us have resigned to sheer sensationalism here ...


Whoa, Thou-Thingy, Kenny didn't work for NWO!  Yikes-

So, any thoughts on where he did work?


I am not entirely sure however I have a vague memory of reading somewhere that the family stated that he worked very briefly with NWA and then left for some Latin American airline or something.
Honestly my "belief" is that that picture was probably taken for taking a picture in an airline uniform, in 70s especially in early 70s that is highly likely.
Also I may be wrong here, however isn't he wearing the captains stripes? Can someone verify that? If yes then the uniform was definitely nothing but a costume party gig.

The shoulder boards that KC is wearing in the photograph that Georger attached above means that he is a purser.  Also note that he is obviously in an aircraft cabin and not at some costume party.

KC also received a letter, which is available somewhere online, from NWA management congratulating him on his 25th year of service with NWA.

So KC was a long time employee of NWA, and he had paratrooper training in the military, but there is no evidence whatsoever that he was involved in the Cooper hijacking.
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