Author Topic: Suspects And Confessions (Read 1668223 times)

andrade1812 · « **Reply #615 on:** December 20, 2014, 09:42:01 PM »

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If not mistaken, I think the rope is the strongest points to the chute. I'm not so sure it would of snapped vs coming undone....

I don't know exactly how Cooper had the the money attached to himself via the rope, R99 mentioned the accepted version is Cooper tied it around his waist. In any case, in deployment the rope would have to handle taking a 10 kilo (or 9.5, doesn't make a lot of difference) sack from 120 mph to 30 mph (~90 mph difference) in a few seconds. That's a lot of strain on both rope and knot, about 5660 foot pounds of energy on the low end of the estimate.

As for whether Cooper pulled or not, well... if your life depends on pulling a thing, you pull that thing. That's a gross simplification, but it also matches the available evidence: no one has found anything but some money and a placard. If the money was going to be lost to the elements whether Cooper pulled or not, then it's hardly evidence that Cooper died.

[Because Cooper had no accent, he was either American or Canadian, and I've never seen any Canadian missing person being close to matching Cooper's. Plus, the FBI looked into missing persons and came up with nothing. The simplest explanation for why that is, is because there was no missing person.]

I'm not invested in any suspect or theory, and part of me prefers that Cooper died. You don't jump out of perfectly good airplanes.

georger · « **Reply #616 on:** December 21, 2014, 12:42:01 AM »

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If not mistaken, I think the rope is the strongest points to the chute. I'm not so sure it would of snapped vs coming undone....

I don't know exactly how Cooper had the the money attached to himself via the rope, R99 mentioned the accepted version is Cooper tied it around his waist. In any case, in deployment the rope would have to handle taking a 10 kilo (or 9.5, doesn't make a lot of difference) sack from 120 mph to 30 mph (~90 mph difference) in a few seconds. That's a lot of strain on both rope and knot, about 5660 foot pounds of energy on the low end of the estimate.

As for whether Cooper pulled or not, well... if your life depends on pulling a thing, you pull that thing. That's a gross simplification, but it also matches the available evidence: no one has found anything but some money and a placard. If the money was going to be lost to the elements whether Cooper pulled or not, then it's hardly evidence that Cooper died.

[Because Cooper had no accent, he was either American or Canadian, and I've never seen any Canadian missing person being close to matching Cooper's. Plus, the FBI looked into missing persons and came up with nothing. The simplest explanation for why that is, is because there was no missing person.]

I'm not invested in any suspect or theory, and part of me prefers that Cooper died. You don't jump out of perfectly good airplanes.

SA Schreuder and others have stated that the Portland office had a standing request with area hospitals and the coroner (including Vancouver) for at least two years, to be notified of any John Doe deceased turned up, and when the money was found at Tina Bar hospitals, the coroner, and others on the list went back and reviewed all of their records to see if anything had been missed. Nothing of an unexplained nature turned up from these watches and reviews, according to these agents. (It's still possible Cooper could have been died and was missed by the system).

It is worth noting there were hobo encampments and people traveling in and out of these camps
on both sides of the river during this whole period. Very likely people in those encampments were missed in hospital and other census'.

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #617 on:** December 21, 2014, 04:52:17 PM »

Robb says he was "really messed up" during that period of his life.

But what was really going on in his head is up for speculation, in my view. When I pressed Robb on this point, he revealed that he had very strong feelings that the world was a rigged game - that the rich got richer by committing crimes and using the US military to feather their nests by suppressing uprisings of liberation, such as the Viet Cong. So Robb saw his hijacking as his attempt of "getting his."

But he kept his motivations and intentions very secret. His girlfriend, and then wife, Mary Stevenson contacted me recently and claimed that she had no inkling of Robb's plans, whatsoever.

She is writing a book about this episode in her life. She went on to see Robb through prison, taught him TM meditation - which was instrumental for enduring incarceration - and then married him after he was released. They divorced seven years later.

FLYJACK · « **Reply #618 on:** January 05, 2015, 11:53:21 PM »

"I did stumble across the name of an engineer while researching the possible origin of those tie particles. He died in 1980, worked at Reynolds Aluminum in Longview, (not far from TBAR) and also worked at Kaiser Aluminum and Chemical in Portland. He was US military in Europe, from the midwest (Indiana) and 35 in 1971... He died alone at a remote public campground South of Tacoma and East of I5,, his name is a very close scramble of "Dan Cooper". He was a scuba and outdoorsman. No physical description yet, but it would be a helluva story if the Cooper money was still buried at that campsite.. "

Ticks many FBI boxes, so far..

Since this JUST caught my attention, it is far too early to call a "suspect" but the above profile is interesting,
name is Ron Conner, "Dan Cooper". I haven't really spent any time on this but while looking for a physical description I found a very poor internet scan. He died in the St. Helens explosion from the gas while at a campsite that still exists... I would like to find something to exclude him...

FWW,, I also have a foreign suspect that I have been trying to eliminate.

Shutter · « **Reply #619 on:** January 06, 2015, 12:12:26 AM »

Is this him?

Tacoma, WA
b. August 7, 1936 in Indiana (age 45) He was a port engineer for Kaiser Aluminum and Chemical Inc.

Thank you to Ronald's brother, Glenn, for the following information:
Ronald left a family of 4 daughters, Sherrill, Theresa, Patrica and Rosa. His son, Ronald Jr. was killed in an auto accident in Magee, Mississippi. He was survived by his mother and father Charles L and Bertha L Conner, Brothers Marvin and Leslie Conner all of Auburndale, Florida, two brothers from Muncie, Indiana, Glenn and Charles A Conner. He was a native of Muncie, Indiana going to several schools there. Ronald was a member of the US Army for eight years where he served in Germany, Italy, and in Korea during that conflict. He married in Italy and along with his wife, Franca, moved to Washington state where he was employed with Reynolds Aluminum Co. He enjoyed the outdoors, scuba diving and family.

FLYJACK · « **Reply #620 on:** January 06, 2015, 01:20:23 AM »

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Is this him?

yup, I also found a useless image and the campsite location.. matches the FBI profile and some interesting coincidences, but he should be eliminated..

My understanding is the Amboy chute has been ruled out.

Shutter · « **Reply #621 on:** January 06, 2015, 04:28:07 PM »

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Is this him?

yup, I also found a useless image and the campsite location.. matches the FBI profile and some interesting coincidences, but he should be eliminated..

My understanding is the Amboy chute has been ruled out.

Yes, the Amboy chute was dismissed for several reasons. some don't believe them, but the chute wasn't Coopers, or Wallings.

georger · « **Reply #622 on:** January 06, 2015, 05:06:13 PM »

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Is this him?

yup, I also found a useless image and the campsite location.. matches the FBI profile and some interesting coincidences, but he should be eliminated..

My understanding is the Amboy chute has been ruled out.

Yes, the Amboy chute was dismissed for several reasons. some don't believe them, but the chute wasn't Coopers, or Wallings.

What happened to the genetics category? I was making a post and it vanished ...
will try later tonight... time wasted again!

Shutter · « **Reply #623 on:** January 06, 2015, 05:08:38 PM »

what category vanished?

Parrotheadvol · « **Reply #624 on:** January 06, 2015, 05:42:28 PM »

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Is this him?

yup, I also found a useless image and the campsite location.. matches the FBI profile and some interesting coincidences, but he should be eliminated..

My understanding is the Amboy chute has been ruled out.

Yes, the Amboy chute was dismissed for several reasons. some don't believe them, but the chute wasn't Coopers, or Wallings.

Well, there's one that don't believe them.

FLYJACK · « **Reply #625 on:** January 07, 2015, 05:53:18 PM »

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Is this him?

Tacoma, WA
b. August 7, 1936 in Indiana (age 45) He was a port engineer for Kaiser Aluminum and Chemical Inc.

Thank you to Ronald's brother, Glenn, for the following information:
Ronald left a family of 4 daughters, Sherrill, Theresa, Patrica and Rosa. His son, Ronald Jr. was killed in an auto accident in Magee, Mississippi. He was survived by his mother and father Charles L and Bertha L Conner, Brothers Marvin and Leslie Conner all of Auburndale, Florida, two brothers from Muncie, Indiana, Glenn and Charles A Conner. He was a native of Muncie, Indiana going to several schools there. Ronald was a member of the US Army for eight years where he served in Germany, Italy, and in Korea during that conflict. He married in Italy and along with his wife, Franca, moved to Washington state where he was employed with Reynolds Aluminum Co. He enjoyed the outdoors, scuba diving and family.

I found that Kaiser Aluminum and Chemical has a 1967 patent for the manufacture of an alloy using various forms of titanium.. including TiC

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georger · « **Reply #626 on:** January 14, 2015, 01:25:55 AM »

The Duck of Truth says:

On the subject of Christiansen allegedly being 'too short' to be Cooper, I will again remind people of another case, the case of Gary Leon Ridgway, aka The Green River Killer.

The Green River Killer was seen by several witnesses during his twenty-plus year crime spree. One guy even followed him to his house and then went to the cops. Almost all the witnesses described him as between six feet and six feet three inches tall, weighing about 180 pounds. Composite sketches with this information were distributed in stores, public places, even on the walls of the Green River Task Force offices. Ridgway was brought to those offices at least once for questioning, and no one matched him to either the 'official' description or the police sketches.

When they finally arrested Ridgway based on the DNA evidence, it was discovered he was only five feet ten inches tall and weighed 155 pounds...

What does this prove? That witnesses under duress often make mistakes, and even the cops didn't make the connection when they had Ridgway right in front of them. Crazy The sketch of Cooper is not a photograph, and the 'official' description might not be completely accurate.

The Duck of Truth cites one case The Ridgeway case, which has no bearing on anything. Obviously The Duck has not heard of the Crawford-Oneal case which goes directly to witness reliability! A picture is worth 1,000,000 Duck quacks.

georger · « **Reply #627 on:** January 14, 2015, 11:29:39 PM »

Still searching for the truth the Duck of Truth sayz: "For example, it might be easier to tell someone's true height if you saw them instead out in the open, or standing next to them at a bus stop. Or...at the luggage carousel. Inside a plane might be tougher than you think.
(This post was edited by RobertMBlevins on Jan 14, 2015, 2:40 PM)"

Isn't Tina standing next to Cooper like "or standing next to them at a bus stop" ? Duhhh.

Apparently not all "standings next to" are equivalent under Blevins Conspiracy Symmetry!

So, it follows: Is Blevins as tall as Blevins? Or only ony Tuesdays and Sunday afternoons when he thinks less and posts more?

$:-\$ $:-\$ $:-\$

Shutter · « **Reply #628 on:** January 14, 2015, 11:50:10 PM »

I'm going to call the FBI and see if I can get the following changed.

1) Cooper was between 4'9" & 6' 4"
2) Cooper was bald on top, but could of used Ron Popeil's spray on hair.
3) Cooper was between the ages of 29-60
4) Cooper worked in the airlines. probably a Purser.
5) Cooper was known to be the same height as Tina Mucklow (outside the aircraft)
6) Cooper weighed 130-190
7) Cooper had a light skin tone (outside the cabin)

This will be a one time deal. I can't keep sending them false information all the time. this will be sent in a PDF format. not all of the changes will be made public. I have a trust issue in Cooperville. you know how it is, right?

georger · « **Reply #629 on:** January 15, 2015, 12:10:42 AM »

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I'm going to call the FBI and see if I can get the following changed.

1) Cooper was between 4'9" & 6' 4"
2) Cooper was bald on top, but could of used Ron Popeil's spray on hair.
3) Cooper was between the ages of 29-60
4) Cooper worked in the airlines. probably a Purser.
5) Cooper was known to be the same height as Tina Mucklow (outside the aircraft)
6) Cooper weighed 130-190
7) Cooper had a light skin tone (outside the cabin)

This will be a one time deal. I can't keep sending them false information all the time. this will be sent in a PDF format. not all of the changes will be made public. I have a trust issue in Cooperville. you know how it is, right?

Good luck. Maybe we could get ESPN to arbitrate! ?

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