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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #570 on: November 13, 2014, 01:10:43 PM »
New - New Suspects coming to a bookstore near you soon!
(all based on the BIG CHANGE coming soon via Bruce Smith & Jo Weber, November-January 2014-1492).
Do you know any of these missing persons ?
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #571 on: November 19, 2014, 11:55:12 PM »
A new suspect, Georger?  I thought Mrs. cooper was going to prove to the world that she is, um, Mrs. Cooper.  As for me, my Big Announcement is that I'm back, looking for a ride to Ariel, and will be getting my book out in e-form on Amazon in the upcoming weeks.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #572 on: November 22, 2014, 03:02:49 PM »
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A new suspect, Georger?  I thought Mrs. cooper was going to prove to the world that she is, um, Mrs. Cooper.  As for me, my Big Announcement is that I'm back, looking for a ride to Ariel, and will be getting my book out in e-form on Amazon in the upcoming weeks.

Nothing I say on this subject ever gets taken seriously. The chance of the ordinary person coming up with a random suspect that is Cooper is extremely small - infinitesimally small. Better to try the lottery. Random Missing persons equally small probability. My Dad or my mom - nearly the same probability. My uncle Harry who liked planes - still a tiny probability. I rate all of the people on these forums who have brought some person forward as in the same category - tiny to infinitesimal chance that person was Cooper.

The main reason is we are generally NOT in a position to be selecting suspects - the population of people available for our inspection is very tiny to a nonexistent fraction of the sample size you would need to even begin to select a candidate, assuming you had facts to help make a selection! That is why genetics has always been the best chance.

Even if you had certain facts about Cooper, it still is a numbers-game. It makes for idle conversation and that is all.

That is why I have always tried to focus on developing the facts of the case. Having facts about what Cooper did can help lead to who Cooper might have been, pending hard physical evidence like genetics or finger prints.

 

   
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #573 on: November 22, 2014, 04:21:40 PM »
Yup, I love facts, too.

Any chance I could talk with those FBI agents you say you talked with about the soggy bundle?
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #574 on: November 27, 2014, 12:35:17 PM »
Here's a new one.....From Geoff Gray:

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #575 on: November 27, 2014, 01:07:44 PM »
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Here's a new one.....From Geoff Gray:

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More gobblewobble from Gray.

It never ceases to amaze me how some of these so-called journalists think they OWN the Cooper case. Frankly, there isn't one tinker's damn worth of difference between the bunch of these smut peddlers. That includes Blevins and Jo Weber.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #576 on: December 08, 2014, 03:30:01 AM »
A post worth sharing! - - -

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Re: [RobertMBlevins] Was Kenny Christiansen a Child Molester? [In reply to]    Can't Post

None of us like to be accused of things that we are not guilty of. I would certainly not like to be accused of hijacking a plane and threatening to murder several innocent people. I would certainly not like to be accused of being a child molester. I would hope that after I am gone, that I would also not be accused of either. Why? It's simple. True or not, Some people hear these type of things a believe them.

I do not know Kenny Christiansen or have enough knowledge about him to suggest that he was a child molester. I hope for the sake of several once young boys, that he was not. But if I had a gay neighbor that took in young boys, I can assure you that the first contact he made with my son would be his last. It does look questionable. Doesn't mean it is though. Hopefully, it was perfectly innocent behavior.

But, it does beg a question. Suppose, perhaps even assume, that Kenny was neither a child molester or Dan Cooper. How do you think that he would have responded to each allegation? Who would he be more pissed off at? Bruce, for merely repeating what was in Gray's book and never really made a full accusation...OR Blevins, who has co-authored a book, spent countless hours on websites posting messages and posting videos, and trying to transform his accusations into a movie? If truly innocent of all of this, who has done the most damage to Kenny's reputation. Also, simply because ones friends and family also make these accusations, don't make them any more right or alleviate any guilt from making these claims.

Robert likes to say that Kenny was either Cooper or he wasn't. I tend to put it this way: The Kenny story is either true, or it's slander.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #577 on: December 08, 2014, 07:43:40 AM »
I don't think Parrot is claiming Bruce was part of the slander statement. at least I didn't read it that way. it's surrounding the fact of Robert stating things from every avenue he can find be it the internet, books, television, newspaper, or even the big screen screaming Kenny was the one who decided to put dozens of people into danger. Bruce stated, or quoted something already said and put a little more into what Gray could of been stating, plus Bruce is not going through every avenue to state what he said.

It seems to be ok for Robert to claim Kenny is Cooper based on several people, but Bruce can't state something already said by someone about Kenny's behavior? both are not really supported by anything other than what people have claimed in the past (hearsay). he asked Bruce for one piece of evidence pointing in that direction, but failed to notice it was there the whole time.

A typical parent would not allow something like that happen, period. was Michael Jackson ever proven to be a molester? I don't believe so, but I wouldn't allow my children around him unsupervised. I think Bruce read a little too much into what Parrot was stating, or who he was stating could be slanderous in my opinion.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #578 on: December 08, 2014, 12:16:22 PM »
You read it correct Shutter. I like Bruce, he asks the tough questions, which is much needed in Cooperville.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #579 on: December 08, 2014, 12:50:29 PM »
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You read it correct Shutter. I like Bruce, he asks the tough questions, which is much needed in Cooperville.

I thought I read it correctly. hopefully Bruce will se these comments along with your update on DZ.

 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #580 on: December 08, 2014, 04:43:30 PM »
We's friends, Parrot and me.  No worries, everybody.

I read his explanatory comments at the DZ and all is good.

Go Vols.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #581 on: December 08, 2014, 09:24:29 PM »
I tried to move the post made by 377 to the Tina Bar thread and it was deleted by mistake  :(

I was able to retrieve his post though, so I will post it again. Sorry about that 377 :-[



I've raised this hypothetical before but never seen Tom K's reaction to it. It's a nutty idea, but I cant find a reasonable explanation of how the money got to T Bar.

Say Brian's parents found the money and perhaps even Cooper's body somewhere else.  They know the bill serial numbers are recorded. They have to find some way to see if the found loot can be kept and whether it is spendable. They decide to run a test case and plant some at T Bar. They very subtly guide young Brian to "prepare" a campfire site right where they buried it. Brian "finds" the money. Turns out that NWA's insurer claims the money and it takes lawyers to get any portion for the Ingrams.

I wouldn't come up with such a far fetched idea if there were a more rational one that explained how the money got to T Bar.

I thought TK's presentation at the Portland Symposium was quite good. He suggests human intervention as a possible transport means. I don't think a Cooper plant makes sense so I ask who else would plant it? What are the chances a buried plant would ever be found? They are 100% if the planter guides the finder. They are TINY otherwise.

A currency debris field would shoot holes in my Ingram parents currency plant idea but I can find no solid evidence confirming that a debris field was really present.

Just a wildly speculative thought. I have no evidence to support it.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #582 on: December 08, 2014, 09:25:16 PM »
Welcome back 377 :). It's not that far fetched if you ask me. we seem to have multiple stories surrounding the money find. one report claims Brian was getting wood, or preparing the area for a campfire. other stories state he was playing with his cousin?, and she found the money? it just plays right along with this whole confusing story of DB Cooper  ;D
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #583 on: December 08, 2014, 09:26:30 PM »
Mark Bennett replied to 377. this post was lost too.

Here is what Mark's reply was:

You came to the right place!  Brian doesn't post, but he is registered here.  You can PM him!

You have a special kinship with Brian, anyway.  You bought one of his bills!
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #584 on: December 08, 2014, 09:28:58 PM »
The reply by Bruce was lost too.......

Here is his reply to 377...

I like it.

I don't embrace it as Absolute Truth, but I like it.


I should of "Merged the topic" rather than "split the topic" I thought I was only deleting one split version. my apology again  :-[
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