I don't think that Gossett being overweight shortly after the hijacking is that big of a deal.

I heard a trivia question several years ago (on the John Boy and Billy show, I think). The question was, "What is the one thing that every big lottery winner has done after winning the lottery?"  The answer: Gained weight.

I don't know if that is actually true, but it does make sense that someone could come into a large sum of money, get a little lazy, over indulge, and wake up one day and realize they're fat. I did that myself....minus the large sum of Money.

If DB Cooper was over indulging using ransom money there would need to be an explanation for why that money didnt show up in circulation.

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I don't think that Gossett being overweight shortly after the hijacking is that big of a deal.

I heard a trivia question several years ago (on the John Boy and Billy show, I think). The question was, "What is the one thing that every big lottery winner has done after winning the lottery?"  The answer: Gained weight.

I don't know if that is actually true, but it does make sense that someone could come into a large sum of money, get a little lazy, over indulge, and wake up one day and realize they're fat. I did that myself....minus the large sum of Money.

If DB Cooper was over indulging using ransom money there would need to be an explanation for why that money didnt show up in circulation.

C'mon man. Blevins has covered that one many times. They quit looking, right?

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I don't think that Gossett being overweight shortly after the hijacking is that big of a deal.

I heard a trivia question several years ago (on the John Boy and Billy show, I think). The question was, "What is the one thing that every big lottery winner has done after winning the lottery?"  The answer: Gained weight.

I don't know if that is actually true, but it does make sense that someone could come into a large sum of money, get a little lazy, over indulge, and wake up one day and realize they're fat. I did that myself....minus the large sum of Money.

If DB Cooper was over indulging using ransom money there would need to be an explanation for why that money didnt show up in circulation.

C'mon man. Blevins has covered that one many times. They quit looking, right?

There could be an explanation for how he spent the money and it hasn't shown up in circulation, I suppose that explanation would have to be more convincing than the details of the $5000 reward for anyone who could turn in a bill from the ransom and having people come forward with bills that were only one serial number off from the ransom ones. It seems that if people were looking hard enough to find bills that were just one number off that it is likely someone would have also found one that matched if there were indeed bills from the ransom in cirulation because they're would be the same likelihood of finding a bill with a serial number with a one digit difference to one actually brought forward. Not sure what all Blevins or anyone else may have to say about it, but without an explanation that has an answer for that I have to assume the ransom money did not make it into circulation. Of course Cooper could have laundered the money and maybe used that 'clean' money to say buy a bunch of junk food and gain weight but there would still be the question of why the laundered money didn't end up in circulation. My guess would be any speculation on how the laundered money didn't end up in circulation would ultimately fall under conjecture. To me the scenario most supported by facts is that the money did not end up back in circulation. It's not as if that is an unfortunate aspect to the case, its really just a valuable piece of information that can be used to help support uncovering more about what the heck actually happened here.

You raise a solid point regarding the money never having been found in circulation. Not one of the almost 10,000 x $20 bills ever being detected raises a fairly compelling argument. But I'd never previously heard bills only a digit away from the listed numbers were presented for reward.

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I don't think that Gossett being overweight shortly after the hijacking is that big of a deal.

I heard a trivia question several years ago (on the John Boy and Billy show, I think). The question was, "What is the one thing that every big lottery winner has done after winning the lottery?"  The answer: Gained weight.

I don't know if that is actually true, but it does make sense that someone could come into a large sum of money, get a little lazy, over indulge, and wake up one day and realize they're fat. I did that myself....minus the large sum of Money.

If DB Cooper was over indulging using ransom money there would need to be an explanation for why that money didnt show up in circulation.

C'mon man. Blevins has covered that one many times. They quit looking, right?

There could be an explanation for how he spent the money and it hasn't shown up in circulation, I suppose that explanation would have to be more convincing than the details of the $5000 reward for anyone who could turn in a bill from the ransom and having people come forward with bills that were only one serial number off from the ransom ones. It seems that if people were looking hard enough to find bills that were just one number off that it is likely someone would have also found one that matched if there were indeed bills from the ransom in cirulation because they're would be the same likelihood of finding a bill with a serial number with a one digit difference to one actually brought forward. Not sure what all Blevins or anyone else may have to say about it, but without an explanation that has an answer for that I have to assume the ransom money did not make it into circulation. Of course Cooper could have laundered the money and maybe used that 'clean' money to say buy a bunch of junk food and gain weight but there would still be the question of why the laundered money didn't end up in circulation. My guess would be any speculation on how the laundered money didn't end up in circulation would ultimately fall under conjecture. To me the scenario most supported by facts is that the money did not end up back in circulation. It's not as if that is an unfortunate aspect to the case, its really just a valuable piece of information that can be used to help support uncovering more about what the heck actually happened here.

I was simply trying to point out that weight gain did not necessarily rule out Gossett. In the grand scheme of things, I do not at all think that Gossett was Cooper, and I am in total agreement with the points you make above. If the money was a plant, then you would have to believe that Cooper got away with all of the money, but none has been found. If it was not a plant, then he probably lost all of the money, which is supported by the fact that no money has been found, other than by Ingram. Total agreement.

Am I correct in thinking Duane Weber only confessed to the one person, his wife Jo, just before he died?

Am I correct in thinking Duane Weber only confessed to the one person, his wife Jo, just before he died?

Correct. No witnesses. And two weeks before he died. Supposedly he was on meds at the time and in great pain. (This is  Jo's account on DZ she has repeated many times. There is also the Pasternak article you might want to look up.)

 

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I don't think that Gossett being overweight shortly after the hijacking is that big of a deal.

I heard a trivia question several years ago (on the John Boy and Billy show, I think). The question was, "What is the one thing that every big lottery winner has done after winning the lottery?"  The answer: Gained weight.

I don't know if that is actually true, but it does make sense that someone could come into a large sum of money, get a little lazy, over indulge, and wake up one day and realize they're fat. I did that myself....minus the large sum of Money.

If DB Cooper was over indulging using ransom money there would need to be an explanation for why that money didnt show up in circulation.

C'mon man. Blevins has covered that one many times. They quit looking, right?

There could be an explanation for how he spent the money and it hasn't shown up in circulation, I suppose that explanation would have to be more convincing than the details of the $5000 reward for anyone who could turn in a bill from the ransom and having people come forward with bills that were only one serial number off from the ransom ones. It seems that if people were looking hard enough to find bills that were just one number off that it is likely someone would have also found one that matched if there were indeed bills from the ransom in cirulation because they're would be the same likelihood of finding a bill with a serial number with a one digit difference to one actually brought forward. Not sure what all Blevins or anyone else may have to say about it, but without an explanation that has an answer for that I have to assume the ransom money did not make it into circulation. Of course Cooper could have laundered the money and maybe used that 'clean' money to say buy a bunch of junk food and gain weight but there would still be the question of why the laundered money didn't end up in circulation. My guess would be any speculation on how the laundered money didn't end up in circulation would ultimately fall under conjecture. To me the scenario most supported by facts is that the money did not end up back in circulation. It's not as if that is an unfortunate aspect to the case, its really just a valuable piece of information that can be used to help support uncovering more about what the heck actually happened here.

I was simply trying to point out that weight gain did not necessarily rule out Gossett. In the grand scheme of things, I do not at all think that Gossett was Cooper, and I am in total agreement with the points you make above. If the money was a plant, then you would have to believe that Cooper got away with all of the money, but none has been found. If it was not a plant, then he probably lost all of the money, which is supported by the fact that no money has been found, other than by Ingram. Total agreement.

Parrot, I follow and assumed your original comment was precisely for the reason you have further explained; since I had not ever heard much reasoning for how Cooper could have spent the money my response was aimed at pointing out what I mentioned from Himmelsbach's book that has led me to reason that the money did not end up in circulation. I also was vaguely fishing for any explanations that folks may have for how Cooper may have been able to spend the ransom and not have it end up in circulation and as we can see from Bruce's comment he's presented a scenario that shows it's plausible that Cooper could have laundered the money and it could have remained out of "non-black market" circulation. Maybe Cooper even went into it with the assumption that he would have to launder the money. Bruce can you point us toward some sources of info on black market currency insights? I find what you presented fascinating not just for how it may relate to Cooper but just because it's bizarre and intriguing. Although, one might still have to wonder - would some people using the black market currency system have checked their bills as well?

Actually nine days. Not two weeks. Jo makes a real big stink about that.

Jerry T says he has talked with the nursing staff at the hospital and they claim that Duane said nothing - no "fuck it let it die with me," etc.

Do you believe JT? I don't, not really.

sorry! nine days not fourteen! ooee'vey!

JT told me the same story. But, Pasternak evidently tried to talk to hospital staff and could not find any witness.
You know what I think. I think Duane and Jo were Cooper fans clear back at Virginia Beach ... she admits they used to drive by McCoy's house. It is a small leap from interest in McCoy to interest in Cooper . Who can complain!

Several people including JT and one agent tell me Jo's original story when she contacted Himms was that 'Duane knew or might have known WHO Cooper was. Jo was trying to peddle Duane as some kind of big shot criminal who knew people and was "in the know", which was preposterous. She still does that today on Dropzone. It worked well enough to get Himmelsbach interested for a time! Obviously, Jo and Duane were thinking and talking about McCoy at Virginia Beach .... the extension to Cooper is automatic.

Jo admits she and Duane discussed Cooper somewhat, she says. We know Duane checked out a book on Cooper from the library and Jo even tried to claim Duane's handwriting (notes) in that books were identical to Cooper's hand writing on the ticket .... that is she claimed this UNTIL she was told Cooper didn't sign the ticket himself and then she dropped that ploy INSTANTLY! Like Blevins she claims "I never said that!"  ...

I mean if it quacks like a duck ...........   it must be a ................. hippopotamus? No something less. DB Cooper! 


! I have edited/corrected this post 5-00 times and it keeps reverting to the original - what does it take to edit a post and get it to stick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?