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I don't care what the guys family says unless they've got some of those twenty dollar bills handy or maybe the toupe he would have had to have worn on 24 Nov 71.

I wouldn't necessarily require that degree of evidence (because those twenties are long gone never to be seen again), but would certainly want more than what McCoys kids brought to the table. Especially considering the hurdles that you and others, including myself, have pointed out. He would have been easily figured out if he were the guy.

I found a Nov 1986 Bellingham Herald article wherein Mucklow describes Cooper as having "tobacco stained teeth," and the "hands of a blue collar laborer like construction or a mechanic."

Don Burnworth was an interesting guy. For those of us who had the pleasure of chatting with him, he was a delight.

His personal life was a train wreck at times, but he a helluva pilot.

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Now there is a show on called Astonishing Legends.  2 or 3 part story.   Part 2 released last night.  Two guys talking about it but much nonsense in between.  So does anyone here believe Richard McCoy's daughter should be subjected to a lie detector test based on her allegations?  I certainly do.

Refresh my memory, how old was Chante when her dad was killed? We didn't really hear much from her in Dan's video about why she thought her dad was Cooper. It seems that it's mostly second hand info, which if she believes it, means she would probably pass the polygraph (see Marla Cooper), which would mean absolutely nothing.

Well it was about protecting the mother from prosecution and once she passed away, then it opened the flood gates for the son and daughter and Dan Gryder was there to use the info.  The best piece of evidence and only one so far that would make me think twice about Richard McCoy  being Cooper is that stuff the other guy on YouTube put out about the "Turkey Neck".  Heard of this? How bout you Bruce?   But once again, if you are going to shoot down Richard's daughter I am going to shoot down this punk that was 21 that had a seat on the plane, had the hots for Tina and Flo, and was just wondering why this older man was getting all the attention. Well fella, the guy that EU begged to come to Cooper Con and finally got him, your testimony of the Turkey neck ( which you cant remember now by the way), is something they are hanging their hats on to discount Richard Floyd McCoy.  An ex green beret for Gods sake to boot.   I still would like to see Chante take the lie detector .She says her father did it and I guess I will watch Dan Gryder's show again at some point but he has really put Richard back on the map.  I will admit that EU's boy, Sheridan, does also have a good resemblance to the composite sketch, but i think McCoy is still my pick.

@DBfan57

Richard McCoy looks absolutely nothing like ANY of the sketches. The sketches don't meant the world, typically, but to me, they kind of do. Let's get one thing straight:

Sheridan Peterson looks absolutely nothing like ANY of the sketches. McCoy doesn't, either.

Why do "suspect people" (people who have a commonly debated suspect as the hijacker) pick and choose what facts to pay attention to, and which to utterly ignore? Honest question, I'm not being rude.

For the billionth time, McCoy was immediately rejected by all on the flight who assisted in compiling the sketches. Not only that,

DARK/DARK COMPLEXION, SWARTHY, OLIVE SKIN, LATIN/LATIN AMERICAN APPEARING, BROWN EYES, BLACK OR DARK BROWN HAIR COMBED BACK.

Do you think LDS Utah, pale white skin blue-eyed, balding (or completely bald in Peterson's case) Rich McCoy would EVER be confused for being LATIN American? Would anyone ever see a Utah Mormon with white skin, sandy blond hair and blue/green eyes and wonder "Gee, I wonder what Latin American country he comes from?"

So. He was unequivocally rejected by everyone who saw Cooper, including Mucklow, who was sharp as a tack and chatted the man up for four freaking hours, was thoroughly investigated by the FBI and of course, dismissed as being Cooper by them, his crime and general demeanor is absurdly different, *and* he looks absolutely nothing like any sketch?

How much more air tight could it possibly be that Richard McCoy is simply hijacker Richard McCoy and nobody else (James Johnson I guess). How much would it take to finally put this to bed? The FBI thoroughly investigating him and saying decisively, "hey, it's not him." Would that change anything? Because they did that already, 50 years ago and then about ten years ago. Maybe a third time would get it to sink, perhaps not.

I think what frustrates me the most with these things, people stuck on easily dismissed, thoroughly investigated and rules out suspects is the level of inherent arrogance it takes to keep bringing them up and saying things like "I doubt the eyewitnesses," or bending whatever narrative to fit whatever you need it to in order for your suspect to be the guy.

How unabashedly arrogant to just dismiss the years of work everyone else has done, including dozens of old FBI agents AND the people on the plane with the guy!!

Are you kidding me? So they're ALL wrong, right? All of the FBI agents, all the people alive who ever saw this guy Cooper, are all wrong and you, you are right?

On what grounds? What evidence do you have? The burden of proof is on the one making the assertion, not the person refuting the claim. Proving it does NOT mean  hatting with some random people 50+ years later and talking about "what ole uncle Gherkins did by the barn back in nun-tain sebbendy wun." Gimme a break, man. I don't care what the guys family says unless they've got some of those twenty dollar bills handy or maybe the toupe he would have had to have worn on 24 Nov 71.


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Hispanic? That's speculation on my part if I indeed said that. I am saying confidently is that the guy was "Latin American or possibly confused as being Latin american." Why? Because every witness, including the ticketing agent, said "dark complexion," or "appeared Latin American." That's a big clue. These are people in Mucklow's case who spent hours with the guy. Larry Carr, who before ever handling the case thought it be McCoy, stated the eyewitnesses "immediately dismissed McCoy," continuing to state "they took one glance and said "nope, not him ." Carr then realized oh, it's actually not Richard McCoy. But I mean, what do two generations of FBI agents and the people who actually saw the man for hours know? Right? I'm sure they were all wrong, all hundred or so of them (decades of case agents all the eyewitnesses).

Larry Carr also stated "the flight attendants we're asked if the man was wearing any make up or any kind of disguise," to which they replied "No." This was all in a recent interview with Carr, available on YouTube.

Larry Carr had an impeccable, decades long career in the FBI. In law enforcement for decades. By claiming we can't dismiss McCoy, we are saying the best detective agency in the world is totally wrong and has been wrong for decades, and also that eyewitnesses do not matter at all, and that they are all wrong, and that's it's actually some random amateur detective who is correct, not 50 years of detectives. Why would we believe Carr or all the rest are wrong? What evidence exists pointing to McCoy? Because he did something similar? Because it's convenient for an old, long ago dismissed suspect? I just don't get the logic. We rule people out, it's just that simple. Why? So there can be clearly defined parameters for investigations and so we have something to work from. Of we just randomly, with zero evidence, dismiss decades of FBI work, what are we even doing here?

FBI/Eyewitnesses= McCoy is not Cooper.



Good enough for me, next.

On a personal note, I see zero resemblance to the artist rendering. Zero. Also, Peterson has been definitively eliminated, I believe. Besides, he was a Norwood 6 baldy and had blue eyes. Again, if we are willing to simply discard all the eyewitness testimony, what are we doing?


All that said, you're free to believe whatever you like. Don't allow me to stand in your way (you're in the Cooper universe so surely you will not). It's fun grappling over these same issues all the time, kind of. Sidenote, I'm in Washougal working today, I'll let you know if I see a parachute.