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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4695 on: May 14, 2021, 11:59:41 PM »
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Which of the major suspects most accurately fit the description of DB Cooper? Do anyone of them match perfectly? Age/height/weight/hair color/eye color/build?

None are an exact fit. But McCoy is in the ballpark,  imho.
Agreed, but even McCoy was well below the age that the crew described. It's hard for me to believe that none of the popular suspects didn't check all the boxes in terms of physical description.

Well, if you take this at face value its not a recommendation for the efficacy of Cooper fanology! One guy even wrote a book about some sexchanged femboy !?   :nono:

It only proves what we always knew - anything flies in Cooperland. Anything can get fifty minutes of fame in Cooperland. Cooperland may be what the Universe looked like before the Big Bang! Semi random chaos and absurdity..  :D 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4696 on: May 15, 2021, 12:37:49 AM »
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Which of the major suspects most accurately fit the description of DB Cooper? Do anyone of them match perfectly? Age/height/weight/hair color/eye color/build?

None are an exact fit. But McCoy is in the ballpark,  imho.
Agreed, but even McCoy was well below the age that the crew described. It's hard for me to believe that none of the popular suspects didn't check all the boxes in terms of physical description.

Well, if you take this at face value its not a recommendation for the efficacy of Cooper fanology! One guy even wrote a book about some sexchanged femboy !?   :nono:

It only proves what we always knew - anything flies in Cooperland. Anything can get fifty minutes of fame in Cooperland. Cooperland may be what the Universe looked like before the Big Bang! Semi random chaos and absurdity..  :D
One would also think that if someone had a suspect who perfectly matched the description, it would carry even more weight.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4697 on: May 15, 2021, 12:43:53 AM »
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Which of the major suspects most accurately fit the description of DB Cooper? Do anyone of them match perfectly? Age/height/weight/hair color/eye color/build?

None are an exact fit. But McCoy is in the ballpark,  imho.
Agreed, but even McCoy was well below the age that the crew described. It's hard for me to believe that none of the popular suspects didn't check all the boxes in terms of physical description.

Well, if you take this at face value its not a recommendation for the efficacy of Cooper fanology! One guy even wrote a book about some sexchanged femboy !?   :nono:

It only proves what we always knew - anything flies in Cooperland. Anything can get fifty minutes of fame in Cooperland. Cooperland may be what the Universe looked like before the Big Bang! Semi random chaos and absurdity..  :D
One would also think that if someone had a suspect who perfectly matched the description, it would carry even more weight.

People have all kinds of reasons for being here. Had my family not been involved in the matter in the 70s I probably wouldnt have had any interest at all! 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4698 on: May 15, 2021, 10:43:44 AM »
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Which of the major suspects most accurately fit the description of DB Cooper? Do anyone of them match perfectly? Age/height/weight/hair color/eye color/build?

None are an exact fit. But McCoy is in the ballpark,  imho.
Agreed, but even McCoy was well below the age that the crew described. It's hard for me to believe that none of the popular suspects didn't check all the boxes in terms of physical description.

Well, if you take this at face value its not a recommendation for the efficacy of Cooper fanology! One guy even wrote a book about some sexchanged femboy !?   :nono:

It only proves what we always knew - anything flies in Cooperland. Anything can get fifty minutes of fame in Cooperland. Cooperland may be what the Universe looked like before the Big Bang! Semi random chaos and absurdity..  :D
One would also think that if someone had a suspect who perfectly matched the description, it would carry even more weight.

I would mention here that we don't have photos of the Egg Harbor suspect nor the Shelton Lead to compare to the sketch, but otherwise their descriptions are close, if not a match to Cooper.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4699 on: May 15, 2021, 09:06:17 PM »
Egg Harbor guy? Who are these candidates? Tell us more, please.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4700 on: May 15, 2021, 09:34:31 PM »
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Egg Harbor guy? Who are these candidates? Tell us more, please.
Martin can elaborate as he has worked very hard, along with a group of others, to identify these suspects.

The Egg Harbor Suspect is an early suspect in the case found in the FBI files. He fits the description pretty well including work history, but his name is redacted. Egg Harbor refers to his hometown of Egg Harbor, NJ.

Another suspect is what is called the “Shelton Lead”; also a nice fitting description with a redacted name. He was apparently a member of the Native American tribe based in Shelton, WA.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4701 on: May 16, 2021, 12:52:30 AM »
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Egg Harbor guy? Who are these candidates? Tell us more, please.
Martin can elaborate as he has worked very hard, along with a group of others, to identify these suspects.

The Egg Harbor Suspect is an early suspect in the case found in the FBI files. He fits the description pretty well including work history, but his name is redacted. Egg Harbor refers to his hometown of Egg Harbor, NJ.

Another suspect is what is called the “Shelton Lead”; also a nice fitting description with a redacted name. He was apparently a member of the Native American tribe based in Shelton, WA.

You are aware there was a native american here in this forum for years, but was banned by Shutter. He is also a phD - in mathematics. Has taught in the native american system for years and knows everyone! You might want to run this by him. He is fed up with forums but still has interest in the Cooper case. He has lived at Shelton.  ;)
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4702 on: May 16, 2021, 06:46:40 PM »
What was the members name?
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4703 on: May 16, 2021, 10:17:07 PM »
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What was the members name?

Someone sent me a email confirming who I thought it was. I had issues with him offline and kept it offline but he started becoming an issue on the forum arguing and name calling with other members causing his removal.

End of story..
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4704 on: May 16, 2021, 11:55:49 PM »
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Egg Harbor guy? Who are these candidates? Tell us more, please.
Martin can elaborate as he has worked very hard, along with a group of others, to identify these suspects.

The Egg Harbor Suspect is an early suspect in the case found in the FBI files. He fits the description pretty well including work history, but his name is redacted. Egg Harbor refers to his hometown of Egg Harbor, NJ.

Another suspect is what is called the “Shelton Lead”; also a nice fitting description with a redacted name. He was apparently a member of the Native American tribe based in Shelton, WA.

Meyer Louie is ready to talk to anyone about a native American the FBI might have considered.  Please be ready to supply documents as context for Meyer to review.

Meyer called me several times today and is interested. He is retired now and has more time. Please refresh us with FBI pages that relate to this matter ?
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4705 on: May 17, 2021, 10:00:01 AM »
I've never put any stock into this guy's story, and still don't. He gets a few of the known facts of the case wrong as well, which makes me question how much he really knows about the case. His name is Chael Sonnen. He is a former MMA fighter. The reason I post is that his "suspect" was Native American. To my recollection, he is the only person I can remember with a Native American suspect. There may be others, I just don't remember any.



This is another video where he talked about his suspect shortly after his death. This is a facebook video, so you may need to be logged into facebook if you wish to watch it. Here's the link, hopefully it works.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4706 on: May 17, 2021, 04:10:47 PM »
Rumor squelching time:

ML is NOT involved in any work with anyone - re- some native American suspect the FBI considered ... ML has never seen 302s related to this matter because nobody as presented those 302s on any forum so far... da dah da dah da dah. Blevins stop chasing rumors!

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4707 on: May 17, 2021, 04:16:06 PM »
Andrade says:

"There were a lot of 302s in the FBI files regarding “The Shelton Lead”(TSL) and they start right after the hijacking itself. (The one difficulty here is that there is a correctional facility in Shelton, so we can’t be 100% sure every one of the documents I’ve reviewed apply specifically to the Shelton Lead.) Here’s a rundown on the lead as it developed in the files:"

Question: what files, where ? In what FBI release? Identify by Part and page. ...

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4708 on: May 17, 2021, 06:42:49 PM »
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Andrade says:

"There were a lot of 302s in the FBI files regarding “The Shelton Lead”(TSL) and they start right after the hijacking itself. (The one difficulty here is that there is a correctional facility in Shelton, so we can’t be 100% sure every one of the documents I’ve reviewed apply specifically to the Shelton Lead.) Here’s a rundown on the lead as it developed in the files:"

Question: what files, where ? In what FBI release? Identify by Part and page. ...

FBI#52, p.189-191

#18 p 96
20 p 226
24 p 420
29 pgs 376-377
30 p 411
32 pgs 180, 209, 223, 339
33 pgs 120,354
35 p 153
46 317, 379
52 p 191, 195
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #4709 on: May 17, 2021, 11:34:50 PM »
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Andrade says:

"There were a lot of 302s in the FBI files regarding “The Shelton Lead”(TSL) and they start right after the hijacking itself. (The one difficulty here is that there is a correctional facility in Shelton, so we can’t be 100% sure every one of the documents I’ve reviewed apply specifically to the Shelton Lead.) Here’s a rundown on the lead as it developed in the files:"

Question: what files, where ? In what FBI release? Identify by Part and page. ...

FBI#52, p.189-191

#18 p 96
20 p 226
24 p 420
29 pgs 376-377
30 p 411
32 pgs 180, 209, 223, 339
33 pgs 120,354
35 p 153
46 317, 379
52 p 191, 195

Thank you. Meyer can either look these up or I will prepare a packet of these files for him to browse. Thanks Andrade!
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