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Who is that guy Dovid? I've never heard that name before.

If Cooper was wearing a watch I'm sure someone would of noticed him looking at the time. not one person seems to have noticed that...Tina spent a lot of time with him and it appears he never looked or cared about the time.

Yet he did initially set a specific deadline for his demands to be met and found the refueling to be taking too long. The latter could have just been his feeling, but to insist on the former would demand some way of verifying the time. He may have asked the flight attendants, of course; it's not something they would necessarily mention in an interview beyond that he was becoming impatient.

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If Cooper was wearing a watch I'm sure someone would of noticed him looking at the time. not one person seems to have noticed that...Tina spent a lot of time with him and it appears he never looked or cared about the time.

Yet he did initially set a specific deadline for his demands to be met and found the refueling to be taking too long. The latter could have just been his feeling, but to insist on the former would demand some way of verifying the time. He may have asked the flight attendants, of course; it's not something they would necessarily mention in an interview beyond that he was becoming impatient.

I'm sure one of the 3 main witnesses would of noticed or said something. if he was that concerned he would of been looking a lot similar to someone today checking there phone. he had to of known somehow but I don't believe it was from a wristwatch. his hands were in and out of the briefcase, perhaps a watch was in there.

You must look at the totality. three stews were around him for a long period. not one of them mentioned looking at a watch. now, when they were asked if Cooper had any jewelry I'm sure the FBI would ask if any rings, bracelets, or watch was noted. the tie clip was small and could of been covered by the jacket.

we don't know if they were telling him time frames either. "it's almost 5:00 and we are getting the chutes to the airport now" If time was a major factor he would of been noticed multiple times checking the time. he has to give a deadline. doesn't mean he has a watch? he had a pocket knife, so he must have a gun?

Tina sat right next to him for hours and you would think she would have mentioned him looking at his watch. she describe his shoes in detail. she knew what was on the matchbook covers. he wasn't noted going through his pockets, so a pocket watch is out. the only other place is the briefcase. he was in and out of it often.

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You must look at the totality. three stews were around him for a long period. not one of them mentioned looking at a watch. now, when they were asked if Cooper had any jewelry I'm sure the FBI would ask if any rings, bracelets, or watch was noted. the tie clip was small and could of been covered by the jacket.

we don't know if they were telling him time frames either. "it's almost 5:00 and we are getting the chutes to the airport now" If time was a major factor he would of been noticed multiple times checking the time. he has to give a deadline. doesn't mean he has a watch? he had a pocket knife, so he must have a gun?

Tina sat right next to him for hours and you would think she would have mentioned him looking at his watch. she describe his shoes in detail. she knew what was on the matchbook covers. he wasn't noted going through his pockets, so a pocket watch is out. the only other place is the briefcase. he was in and out of it often.

Re: the matchbook, someone on another forum was saying there were two of them, Cooper's and Tina's. Do we have any reason to believe this was so? Why would Tina mention Sky Chef at all if she was the one who grabbed those matches from the galley in the first place? Is there something I'm missing in the transcript?

Oh, sorry, shutter, I just realized we've ventured into Evidence territory rather than "Suspects and Confessions."
 

A lot of people don't wear watches and know the time to some extent. I'm one of those. if he did have access to time he didn't make it apparent. I don't think having a watch would do much in his defense unless he knew the flight path taken.

A lot of people don't wear watches and know the time to some extent. I'm one of those. if he did have access to time he didn't make it apparent. I don't think having a watch would do much in his defense unless he knew the flight path taken.

It is highly unlikely that Cooper would have known which of the two possible flight paths between Portland and Seattle that the airliner would take.  At the same time, the flight path taken (V-23) was only two or three nautical miles longer than the shorter one (V-23E).  So that would only involve less than a minutes flying time.

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This entire case was just one big bluff, Cooper didn't need a watch since there was nothing he could do if they didn't keep his schedule...

Remember: "Miss, all I have to do is touch these two wires ..." ..."no funny stuff or I'll do the job". He presented a contraption that looked like a bomb.

Cooper could have said, 'ok I give up. Land this plane and I'll cooperate'. It's over.'  But he didn't.

He relied on psychology, a parachute, whatever skills he had with a parachute, the darkness and weather, enough time in the air to confuse everyone, and it appears he may have ejected close to where it all began at Portland. He was so far ahead with so many unknowns operating, over a large enough geographical area, a hand full of law enforcement couldn't catch up to him easily. Then money turns up on a sand bar of all places, ten years later, and the only thing to connect these events is the flow of water. And whatever evidence they had also conveniently disappears or is so conflicted it is almost meaningless!

Who is bluffing whom?   

This may be fanciful, but it was like fate conspired to let him remain a metaphor. A desperate, faithless, resentful Everyman - a middle-aged loner, not a young hothead - who devised the perfect plan designed to get him what he wanted with the least amount of collateral damage. Tosses his necktie on the way out the door - it was only ever a clip-on, anyway; he was never going to let it choke him; his persona was only ever for show. Vanishes, with every evidentiary detail thereafter, including the find at Tina Bar, producing more questions than answers. The most key pieces of evidence going missing some time before the technology that could have nailed him. *poof!* The magic trick is complete.  Been watching Better Call Saul and Barry, both shows about anti-heroes, how they got there, and how life is lived beyond the time of possible redemption. Shows that make the audience question itself in its ability to empathize with questionable people. We all know the long-term psychological effects Cooper's crime had on some, yet no matter what background we imagine for him, we have to wonder how he got there and how he justified it in his mind. The desire to escape is powerful in our culture, and the ability to do so is rare. That's why watching/reading re-creations of Cooper's jump are enthralling - much like the opening scenes in Casablanca, when the young couple looks wistfully up and the woman goes, "Perhaps tomorrow we'll be on that plane." We don't know what Cooper was REALLY escaping. We can only look up and imagine.