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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3855 on: December 01, 2018, 10:31:49 PM »
So you're suggesting that they didn't bury a body in Honduras, and that paperwork I posted, somehow wasn't a real death.

It sounds like you're just making up possibilities. Very unlikely.

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So that question is answered 100%

William H. Hahneman was not Cooper
death in 1969 in Honduras. Heart attack.

Apparently buried in Cementerio General, San Pedro Sula, Honduras.

Not necessarily 100%, researching the older brother I suspected they may have shared ID's...

US Reps in Honduras claimed in 1972 F W Hahneman (not W H Hahneman) said he had worked on the Dew Line and Ascension Islands.. that matches the "RCA Service" locations..  weird.

Was the older brother travelling on his younger brothers passport?


Honduras was corrupt and sketchy, could have been a faked death scam,,,

Why use his older brother's US address? the older brother was never there, just his wife and kids.

Something is fishy, can't figure it out yet.  In 1972 Hahneman's cousin called him "Bill". Did one assume the other's identity?
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3856 on: December 01, 2018, 10:32:36 PM »
William had a US passport and social security number.
I posted the numbers.

You're saying that was faked too?

A lot of faking with US documents.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3857 on: December 01, 2018, 10:43:18 PM »
William H. Hahneman might have been a great Cooper

IN 1946 when he enlisted for WW II, he was listed as 5' 10"
brown hair/eyes.
a little light (138) but only 19 years old then.

Registration Date:   1946
 
Weight:   138
Eye Color:   Brown
Hair Color:   Brown
Height:   5 10
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3858 on: December 01, 2018, 10:44:02 PM »
You're jumping from them having similar jobs, to  sharing identities?

What's so odd about them having similar jobs, even working for same company? Not odd.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3859 on: December 01, 2018, 10:45:34 PM »
I don't know if that last known US address on his death paperwork, is actually exactly Frederic's, but same town.

Maybe the mother and sister didn't have any other US address for him? He didn't fill in that paperwork..they did.  Maybe they just didn't know.

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Why use his older brother's US address? the older brother was never there, just his wife and kids.
 
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3860 on: December 01, 2018, 10:48:54 PM »
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William had a US passport and social security number.
I posted the numbers.

You're saying that was faked too?

A lot of faking with US documents.

No, the US docs are legit.. The Honduran death cert might be sketchy. I am only saying it isn't 100%.


 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3861 on: December 01, 2018, 10:53:12 PM »
William H Hahneman is listed in Social Security death indices.
Same Social Security number as  the notice in Honduras
Same month/year of death as Honduras. Feb 3.
I have to fix the name on the jpg above, I misread the Honduras paperwork

Name:   William H Hahneman
[William Hahneman]
Gender:   Male
Birth Date:   Xxxx
Death Date:   Feb 1969
Claim Date:   24 Jun 1969
SSN:   439440440
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3862 on: December 01, 2018, 11:36:09 PM »
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I don't know if that last known US address on his death paperwork, is actually exactly Frederic's, but same town.

Maybe the mother and sister didn't have any other US address for him? He didn't fill in that paperwork..they did.  Maybe they just didn't know.

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Why use his older brother's US address? the older brother was never there, just his wife and kids.
 

It is Fred's address, he was away for years at a time... his blind wife and kids lived there.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3863 on: December 02, 2018, 12:02:25 AM »
If you're concocting stories, the idea that William pretended he was Frederic while Frederic was away, and sleeping with his blind wife...that makes sense, right?

I mean why is that less plausible than Frederic travelling with William's passport?
(don't they cancel the passport before they give/gave it to William's mother post-death?)
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3864 on: December 02, 2018, 12:16:44 AM »
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You're jumping from them having similar jobs, to  sharing identities?

What's so odd about them having similar jobs, even working for same company? Not odd.

... and working at Tina's high school ......... possibly knowing Tina .... possible close relationship between Tina and Coopereheman ........ grand reunion with Tina during hijacking! .......  Tina co-conspirator with Haheman! ...... Tina flees to a nunnery to escape Cooper and prosecution ........

Real Bruce Smith conspiracy stuff.  >:D
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3865 on: December 02, 2018, 12:19:32 AM »
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If you're concocting stories, the idea that William pretended he was Frederic while Frederic was away, and sleeping with his blind wife...that makes sense, right?

I mean why is that less plausible than Frederic travelling with William's passport?
(don't they cancel the passport before they give/gave it to William's mother post-death?)

WTF are you talking about? That is Georger Strawman territory..
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3866 on: December 02, 2018, 12:25:38 AM »
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If you're concocting stories, the idea that William pretended he was Frederic while Frederic was away, and sleeping with his blind wife...that makes sense, right?

I mean why is that less plausible than Frederic travelling with William's passport?
(don't they cancel the passport before they give/gave it to William's mother post-death?)

WTF are you talking about? That is Georger Strawman territory..

Hahenemannehanmann is NOT my suspect - I got what I know from your previous posts here.

Please do not pull a Blevins and accuse people of doing what you yourself are doing - ie creating straw men!  :rofl: 

Where were we at?   Oh yea you said to Snow and me: "WTF are you talking about?"

Your turn next ...   :-* :-*

REMINDER TO FLY   you did just post in your post 1541 a few lines back, quote:  That is the younger brother, disappeared or died late 60's. Maybe went back to Honduras?? Has a 1968 abandoned bank account 9 miles from Tina's school... weird.

So it is YOU who bring this up!  And you are not mois!  Lets keep our duckies in a row here instead of making false accusations. Thank you.  ;D
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3867 on: December 02, 2018, 12:41:03 AM »
It would be nice to dig up more detail about the jobs they had.

I just don't see anything that says they were sharing identities.

I can't even imagine the purpose of trying to use a cancelled passport.

William's passport was definitely cancelled when he died. (the consul apparently was involved in giving it back to the mother from the report? so it would have been cancelled then?)

What would you make you think Frederick was using his passport post-death?
And why would he even want to?
And how does that make Frederick Cooper?

I just thought William might have been Cooper. But he's not. Because he was dead.
Pretty black and white.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3868 on: December 02, 2018, 12:43:22 AM »
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It would be nice to dig up more detail about the jobs they had.

I just don't see anything that says they were sharing identities.

I can't even imagine the purpose of trying to use a cancelled passport.

William's passport was definitely cancelled when he died.

What would you make you think Frederick was using his passport post-death?
And why would he even want to?
And how does that make him Cooper?

I just thought William might have been Cooper. But he's not. Because he was dead.
Pretty black and white.

... and neither of them dated Tina at her high school either, just to cover that straw man! (Bruce no need for you to blow your stack again over this. Lets assume that Flyjack matter is settled once and for all. )  C:-)
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3869 on: December 02, 2018, 12:46:13 AM »
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do you think the person in the attached picture resembles the sketch