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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3735 on: November 02, 2018, 09:49:29 PM »
 

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« Reply #3736 on: November 02, 2018, 10:00:34 PM »
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Oh I think not. Interesting to remember though, there was a Babushka Lady. This unknown person was/is real.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3737 on: November 02, 2018, 11:02:56 PM »
Bruce wrote

Snow keeps sending me suggestions on how to be nice...

Excuse me Bruce. Have you vetted the qualifications of your niceness coach?

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3738 on: November 03, 2018, 02:11:39 AM »
Snow's suggestions are unsolicited, but cute.

I wonder when the last time was that anyone called Snow cute. Whaddaya think, 377?
 

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« Reply #3739 on: November 03, 2018, 03:24:22 AM »
Cute? Not much cuteness in the Vortex.

Curtis Eng thought Marla was cute.

She sure stirred up the first Portland DBC Symposium.

Who will be the Marla of our 2018 event?

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« Reply #3740 on: November 03, 2018, 03:31:13 AM »
What is Galen Cook up to these days Bruce?

Wish he was coming to the Portland event.

And what about Jerry Thomas? Any news? I really enjoyed meeting and discussing the survivability of the Cooper jump with him.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3741 on: November 03, 2018, 10:00:44 AM »
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Bruce, how close was I on Robert getting wind of this? he watches this site "like a hawk"

On the money.

Speaking of money, how are you at getting the numbers for Power Ball?

About 1 in 292,201,338  :rofl:
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3742 on: November 03, 2018, 04:52:00 PM »
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What is Galen Cook up to these days Bruce?

Wish he was coming to the Portland event.

And what about Jerry Thomas? Any news? I really enjoyed meeting and discussing the survivability of the Cooper jump with him.

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Galen is still up in Alaska, and still seems to be distracted by making money. Hence, he is busy in his law practice, and DBC has to take a back seat. Alas.

I have strongly encouraged him to attend the conference, and he says that he will try. He sounds 50-50 at best.

As for Jerry Thomas, he has dropped off my radar screen. Last I heard he was recovering from a total loss of his house, DBC paraphernalia, etc., from a forest fire several years ago.

Along those lines, Jerry's "2nd father," Ralph Himmelsbach is still alive and kicking ass! I spoke with Doug Perry of the Oregonian a week or so ago and Doug told me that he had tried to interview Ralph, who is still asking for payment for a print interview. Doug was surprised, to say the least!

Speaking of which, Doug told me that he will be at the conference pending any other journalistic emergencies. However, he will be returning from California the day before, so he will not be able to party with the hardy folks of Cooperland on that eve. Nevertheless, he and I will at least have drinks on Saturday night.

Speaking of which II, where is the night-before party? And more to the point, where are we all staying? I probably have strayed into the wrong thread, so...

...but in his many - and daily - emails to me, Bobby B says that the owner of a tavern in Portland, "V-23," is a Cooperite and wants to host an annual Cooper Daze bash. Maybe we should check him out, especially since RMB says he will be out of town with relatives over the holiday weekend - kind of sounds like Kenny's announcement pre-Thanksgiving, 1971...
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3743 on: November 05, 2018, 12:25:03 AM »
There's a little bit of stolen valor in Sheridan's book.
Yes, it's obvious Vince and Grecco are Sheridan.
He repeats the assertion that Vince (Sherian) fought on Iwo Jima. As we discussed, he didn't.
He does talk elsewhere about his duty as an MP (377 asked about that)

Gyrene is a nickname for a US Marine

Vince raised the tiny old woman in his arms and took her to her hut. Then he found a pail of water and washed away the blood plac-ing his handkerchief over the wound. She was still breathing when he left.
Later that evening, Hien Van Coung, the MAT team's interpreter told Grecco that the District Chief was very angry. "You must never wander off by yourself again," he said. "It's very dangerous. The people in these camps are Communists. They will kill you. The Americans agreed. Vince had been goddamn stupid.

"Well, what can you expect of a fucking civilian?" Grecco over-heard the Captain tell one of the sergeants. "He has no business out here."

"Shit Sir," the Sergeant said. "He ain't no fucking desk jockey, Sir. He was a fucking Gyrene on Iwo Jima. He's one tough mothafucker, Sir."
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« Reply #3744 on: November 06, 2018, 04:34:18 PM »
I touched up a version of the photo Sheridan used on the back of the 1st edition of his book, which was made available in 2008  (apparently pdf'ed in 2007). Interestingly, he registered for a copyright in 2001. I believe he had a fire tower job in 1999 where he talked about completing/working on his book.

It would be really interesting to understand how much of his book was written in Nepal in '70-'73.  I wonder what he used? Pen/Paper? Typewriter? If typewriter, when did he transcribe it to a computer? Probably not until late '90s. Maybe the first time it was in a computer was right before the 2001 copyright.

I find it interesting that the pdf for the 2008 edition, was "created" in 2007..i.e. the same year he wrote the Parachutist article...and 4-5 years after the FBI interview in 2002/2003

Attached the retouched Saudi Arabia picture (must be circa '75 to '77 or so?)
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3745 on: November 06, 2018, 05:19:44 PM »
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There's a little bit of stolen valor in Sheridan's book.
Yes, it's obvious Vince and Grecco are Sheridan.
He repeats the assertion that Vince (Sherian) fought on Iwo Jima. As we discussed, he didn't.
He does talk elsewhere about his duty as an MP (377 asked about that)

Gyrene is a nickname for a US Marine

Vince raised the tiny old woman in his arms and took her to her hut. Then he found a pail of water and washed away the blood plac-ing his handkerchief over the wound. She was still breathing when he left.
Later that evening, Hien Van Coung, the MAT team's interpreter told Grecco that the District Chief was very angry. "You must never wander off by yourself again," he said. "It's very dangerous. The people in these camps are Communists. They will kill you. The Americans agreed. Vince had been goddamn stupid.

"Well, what can you expect of a fucking civilian?" Grecco over-heard the Captain tell one of the sergeants. "He has no business out here."

"Shit Sir," the Sergeant said. "He ain't no fucking desk jockey, Sir. He was a fucking Gyrene on Iwo Jima. He's one tough mothafucker, Sir."


Is it really stolen valor or just a hair on the right side of it? He says Grecco was ON Iwo Jima. It then says he one tough MF. Both could be true without having seen combat on Iwo Jima. Sure, it implies that Grecco fought on Iwo Jima but does not actually claim it.

I spent quite a few hours with Sheridan and never found making false claims or even implications about having seen WW2 combat. He told me he was ready to fight but arrived too late in the war to see any. He was similarly modest and truthful about his skydiving and smoke jumping exploits. He acted like his very risky wingsuit experiments were no big deal.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3746 on: November 06, 2018, 06:50:22 PM »
well, it's a "literary" documentary, so not all facts are true..
He talks about Iwo Jima a couple of times. I'm just calling him out on it, as not autobiographical.
He can write whatever he wants for his fictional characters...but they're mostly not fictional

Here Vince Grecco thinks about the Japanese he supposedly killed at Iwo Jima as a "teenage Marine"

Sheridan wrote:

It never seemed to occur to Kalick that the civilians might be averse to killing. That some might prefer to die rather than kill another human being. As for Grecco, it was a different matter. He had blood on his hands. As a teenage Marine, he'd killed a good many Japs on Iwo Jima. During the final day of battle, his company had mowed down hundreds of them when they threw a suicidal Banzai attack against them. Vince had felt ill used. If the Japs were so keen on killing themselves, why should he have to do it for them? It would be best for all concerns if they killed themselves. The slaughter had scarred him. It had hardened something deep inside, so Kalick could counted on him to defend the compound if it was absolutely necessary. However, he was not going out in
search of people to ambush and murder. That was definitely out of the question.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3747 on: November 06, 2018, 06:53:48 PM »
According to Sheridan it was 95% real and 5% fictionalized.
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« Reply #3748 on: November 06, 2018, 07:12:57 PM »
Pete just used up 4.99% on that imagined combat killing on Iwo Jima. Leaves very little fiction allowance left for that helo jump into North Vietnam.

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« Reply #3749 on: November 07, 2018, 04:02:07 PM »
The nice thing for a DBC forum, is that there is always some ridiculous piece of detail to discuss.

Example:
Sheridan has one chapter devoted to "Banana Cat"

Now what is a banana cat? No, not the recent anime stuffed animals etc.

from a vietnam vet:
This was an exotic mammalian member of the Vietnamese fauna said to inhabit banana plantations. This critter was about the size and shape of a cat and had the face of a raccoon.

Like grunts, banana cats could be easily domesticated if obtained as kittens and fed a steady diet of C-Rats. They proved very useful in pest control on fire bases-rats, snakes, lifers and large_very, very large_spiders.

According to grunt lore, they were related to the mongoose, and since the little critter took no crap from cobras and other shoulder-less reptiles, this was generally accepted as quite a creditable claim as far as grunts were concerned.

They didn't purr much, but were quite fond of being petted, sleeping in poncho liners and eating C-rats...good grunts..except the petting part.


I found a picture from 1968, of a vietnam soldier, with a banana cat.
It's obviously not a normal cat...does look somewhat like a raccoon/mongoose.

So now you know.
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