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« Reply #3645 on: November 01, 2018, 03:56:29 PM »
Interesting. (re the Tina conversation about Minnesota, and what EU reported from Claire)
Based on what we know of Sheridan's writing style, I think this confirms some knowledge of Minnesota.

From Sheridan's book, a mention of Minnesota


As he crossed the living room and started up the stairs, he could hear Ong Son talking with his teenage daughter, Co Chi. She was only fifteen. She'd had an affair with a cop from St. Cloud, Minnesota a year and a half ago when she was just thirteen. He was now in I Corps on the DMZ training death squads. They wrote each other regularly. Once she showed Grecco a family snap shot of him with his wife and two teenage sons. He looked to be fifty; a good thirty-year age difference, Vince figured. What makes it worse, she's in love with the slimy bastard. 
 

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« Reply #3646 on: November 01, 2018, 03:56:43 PM »
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we are to believe rare earth elements can be found in what, powder form on glasses, cans, electronics, did he also buff out a spot on a new television screen with the tie?

ask Tom..
 

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« Reply #3647 on: November 01, 2018, 03:59:01 PM »
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Could some of those tie particles be from cleaning the sunglasses with the tie.. one of the stews thought they looked like prescription sunglasses.

Optical coatings SUNGLASSES.. 1968

The layers 14, 16 may consist of the oxides of titanium, lead or bismuth or zinc sulphide, and the layer 18 may be constituted by Ni, Fe, Cr, Ti, Al, La, In, Sn, Pb, Ta, W, Co, Mo, Os, Ir, Pt, Yt, Zr, Ni, Zn, Cd, V, Hf, Re, Tl, Si, Ge, As, Sb, or Te or an alloy or any two or more thereof.

metals such as sodium, potassium and calcium. Specifically, titanium, iron and chromium are preferred in this reflection-reducing layer, however aluminum, lanthanum, indium, tin, lead, tantalum, tungsten, cobalt, molybdenum, osmium, iridium, platinum, yttrium, zirconium, niobium, zinc, cadmium, vanadium, hafnium, rhenium and thallium can also be used in this reflection-reducing layer. Semi-metals (i.e. elements which possess metallic and non-metallic properties) such as silicon, germanium, arsenic, antimony and tellurium have also been found to be useful in this layer.


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here it is..

Alice.. hair wavy DOH.. (others marcelled, curly, SORRY SP) and dark sunglasses looked like prescription..
 

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« Reply #3648 on: November 01, 2018, 04:01:07 PM »
"dark glasses that look like prescription"

hmm. I suppose you're not familiar with the kind of glasses you might need in a snow covered area like the Himalaya. Now THOSE are dark sunglasses.
 

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« Reply #3649 on: November 01, 2018, 04:03:36 PM »
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"dark glasses that look like prescription"

hmm. I suppose you're not familiar with the kind of glasses you might need in a snow covered area like the Himalaya. Now THOSE are dark sunglasses.

Perhaps the sunglasses were used to support an attached wig.. with yttrium glue
 

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« Reply #3650 on: November 01, 2018, 04:07:13 PM »
Here's why I thought Sheridan might have been making $20k a year at his first Vietnam job (before Nepal)

If you were making this much around '68-70 in vietnam, I would think it would be easy to save up some money for 2 1/2 years off in Nepal.

I don't know why EU thinks you would need more, to finance a Nepal walkabout.
Even with wife and two new kids..


And then there was the money. Sixteen thousand dollars plus four thousand bucks hardship pay. Twenty thousand dollars a year, and for doing what? Turning a couple phony reports in each month
 

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« Reply #3651 on: November 01, 2018, 04:07:39 PM »
Dark = prescription?
 

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« Reply #3652 on: November 01, 2018, 04:11:43 PM »
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Dark = prescription?

Why say that?

It was just Alice's description/opinion.. she doesn't say why, like because dark.

I don't think prescription sunglasses were that common back then.. so why did she think that?
 

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« Reply #3653 on: November 01, 2018, 04:17:29 PM »
Snowman wrote

Papa Alpha, This is Bravo Whiskey. Come in Papa Alpha, he would shout over and over again into his microphone.

Although quoting from Sheridans book, Snow is really poking at me about my pitiful performance in ham radio contests, something he truly excelled in, reaching top national rankings.

Georger knows what LID means. I like to think I am not one.

Snow has his weak spots but they will not be exposed. I am too much a gentleman to lash back like that.   

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« Reply #3654 on: November 01, 2018, 04:38:42 PM »
"Zulu Zulu Zulu".....
"Again?" ..

Oh fuck it

"Zanzibar Zanzibar Zanzibar"

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Snowman wrote

Papa Alpha, This is Bravo Whiskey. Come in Papa Alpha, he would shout over and over again into his microphone.

Although quoting from Sheridans book, Snow is really poking at me about my pitiful performance in ham radio contests, something he truly excelled in, reaching top national rankings.

Georger knows what LID means. I like to think I am not one.

Snow has his weak spots but they will not be exposed. I am too much a gentleman to lash back like that.   

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« Reply #3655 on: November 01, 2018, 05:04:38 PM »
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Here's why I thought Sheridan might have been making $20k a year at his first Vietnam job (before Nepal)

If you were making this much around '68-70 in vietnam, I would think it would be easy to save up some money for 2 1/2 years off in Nepal.

I don't know why EU thinks you would need more, to finance a Nepal walkabout.
Even with wife and two new kids..


And then there was the money. Sixteen thousand dollars plus four thousand bucks hardship pay. Twenty thousand dollars a year, and for doing what? Turning a couple phony reports in each month


20K per year working as a refugee adviser for USAID back in 1969 strikes me as excessive. That is many factors higher than the actual soldiers were earning. I would be surprised if he were earning this much...why would he leave?

Also, presumably he would have made even more when he went back in 1973, yet he appeared to save no money during Vietnam Round II.
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« Reply #3656 on: November 01, 2018, 05:10:32 PM »
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With that said, The FBI received an unknown piece of material evidence in 2010 that was submitted to Quantico. The results of the Quantico analysis were received by the FBI in early 2016. These results were the straw that broke the camel's back and caused the US Attorney to close the case. What was this evidence?

Not sure, but this is what I know, as told by Ayn Dietrich-Williams:

Ayn indicated to me that the 2010-2016 time period was spent looking at LD Cooper, and the primary piece of evidence examined were fingerprints. I suspect that other pieces of evidence were also examined at that time, but what they were is unknown to me.

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« Reply #3657 on: November 01, 2018, 05:11:49 PM »
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With that said, The FBI received an unknown piece of material evidence in 2010 that was submitted to Quantico. The results of the Quantico analysis were received by the FBI in early 2016. These results were the straw that broke the camel's back and caused the US Attorney to close the case. What was this evidence?

Not sure, but this is what I know, as told by Ayn Dietrich-Williams:

Ayn indicated to me that the 2010-2016 time period was spent looking at LD Cooper, and the primary piece of evidence examined were fingerprints. I suspect that other pieces of evidence were also examined at that time, but what they were is unknown to me.

I think LD first entered the FBI orbit in 2011.
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« Reply #3658 on: November 01, 2018, 05:22:32 PM »
20K annually does not sound excessive to me. Soldier pay is never a good comparable for civilian compensation.  I have dug around quite a bit in government documents and can not find any salary information for the type of job Sheridan had in Vietnam. Snow could find it in a few minutes if he cared to put in the effort.

One thing I think we can agree on is that Sheridan was neither a great planner nor a great saver. I can not say that he was ever financially secure.  He certainly is not at the present time.

Sheridan is a very smart and highly articulate person. Had he decided to,  he could have become a professional such as physician  or attorney. There is nothing dishonorable about being a teacher, in fact I am married to one and
it is a profession I admire greatly. But even in that pursuit he never seem to hold down a job very long.

His career path seems pretty sporadic and chaotic and I am sure that bumpy road was not paved with gold.

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« Reply #3659 on: November 01, 2018, 05:23:15 PM »
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To me it is almost beyond belief that the FBI lost the cigarette butts.  There should be a clear written record of where they were stored and who had access to them. FBI agents are especially well trained on evidence  handling and the importance of preserving chain of custody records.

You do not just go into an evidence locker and take out what you need. You have to log in, identify what you are examining or removing and if something is not returned there will be a clear written record showing who last possessed it.

Lost is not acceptable. Lost by who? When? Where?

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All good questions, 377.

Related is how the FBI actually functions, in particular in its crime labs. Rermember, in the late 1990s the DOJ investigated the FBI's primary crime lab operation in DC upon the ten-year's worth of whistleblowing alarms set off by one of their surpervisory agents, Dr. Frederick Whitehurst.

In that investigation they found the following:

1. FBI lab techs manufactured fake evidence.
2. FBI lab techs lied in court about their findings.
3. FBI lab techs routinely lost evidence, and / or their documentation was lost, incomplete, misleading, or inaccurate.
4. Some FBI lab techs were not qualified to work in their particular unit. Many were not even scientifically trained. In fact, some were just special agents shifted to the lab from field assignments.
5. The overarching goal - the culture in the lab - was to get a conviction. Truth, or solid evidence, was secondary.
6. Over four-dozen recommendations were delivered to the Attorney General to clean up the mess in the FBI lab. It's unclear how many were enacted. However, no one faced criminal charges. Nevertheless, Whitehurst was forced out of the Bureau.
7. FBI Profiler John Douglas has publicly declared that the FBI has an inside joke: "We can convict anyone. It's just that the innocent take longer."

The cigarette butts were lost shortly after the Attorney General released his report on the investigation. An NPR documentary was produced detailing these proceedings.
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