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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3525 on: October 31, 2018, 04:52:04 PM »
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3526 on: October 31, 2018, 04:57:53 PM »
I only mentioned "politics" because of its relation to Petey.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3527 on: October 31, 2018, 04:58:57 PM »
There are a number of FBI memos comparing fingerprints of Cooper to suspects.
The number of prints seems to vary.

This memo from 8/3/72 seems to say, after excluding all known people, they had a set of 8 finger and 1 palm print to compare to? Later memo doing compare in '76 implies the same number.

And it may have been tips/sides/lower joints.

So if they fingerprinted Sheridan and did a comparison, I wonder if MJ Fryar did a complete enough set, or just tips for Sheridan.

If she only printed his tips, there may have not been enough for comparison.

Be interesting to know whether they did a print compare..i.e. if the files still existed for comparison in 2002/2003 and whether MJ Fryar did a full enough print set.

Maybe EU can quiz MJ Fryar on how she did the prints..She focused on the swab, but I thought she took some kind of prints also. Hard to imagine she did palm print or sides of fingers, etc.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3528 on: October 31, 2018, 05:25:00 PM »
In the last chapter of Sheridan's book, when one of Sheridan's characters is going to do the jump...it's the pilot who is wearing a pair of wrap-around dark glasses.

In a prior section, when he's organizing a jump load with the Saigon club, someone has horn-rimmed glasses.

One of the descriptions of the Cooper glasses was horn-rimmed.

A slender youth with horn-rimmed glasses held to his head with a thick elastic
band raised his hand. "Yo," he said.


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Grecco took five twenty dollar bills from his wallet and held them out to the Vietnamese pilot. "One hundred U.S. dollars," He could not see the man's expression, for he had on a pair of wrap-around dark glasses. He wore a black baseball cap and black coveralls with two gold lotus blossom insignias on each shoulder indicating that he was a captain. He had a lavender scarf tied casually about the neck. A pearl handle pistol hung at his hip. Aping his idol, Air Marshal Nguyen Cao Ky, Grecco mused, South Vietnam's Clint Eastwood.

"Why do you want to do this?" the pilot asked. His voice was flat, quite void of any feeling.

"That's not part of the bargain," Grecco said. "The bargain is that you fly me fifty kilometers north of Tay Ninh."

"One way?" the pilot asked taking the money and examining each bill carefully.

"Yes, one way," Vince said.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3529 on: October 31, 2018, 05:27:25 PM »
There's actually a couple mentions of horn-rimmed glasses

A scholarly old man with horn-rimmed glasses explained the drawings to the recruits pointing out where the subterranean city's living quarters, storage depots, ordinance factories, hospitals, radio rooms, temporary cemeteries, and command headquarters were located. He showed how the tunnels connected with specific villages, district compounds and province capitals. He also pointed out where each recruit would work.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3530 on: October 31, 2018, 05:28:02 PM »
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EU:
about Cooper's money

The most likely thing, is that Cooper lost the bag on jet exit..too much turbulence for his ad-hoc canvas bag attached.

He may have kept some bundles if he had stuck any in his pockets

So I don't think there's a need to talk about lots of money for a Cooper suspect. It's most likely Cooper lost all the money, I think.

It seems hard to believe the money stayed attached to him.

Snow,

I agree. We know for certain that at least 6K did not stay with DBC. This means that it is entirely possible that some or all of the money was lost for some reason.

While I agree the money could have been lost at the time of the jump, I believe it is highly unlikely. After all, there was buried money found on Tena Bar still bundled. And, no other money has been found. It just doesn't seem likely that if the money bag was detached that a significant portion of the money wouldn't have blown away in the wind which would certainly have led to many people on the ground finding bills.

It is also possible that the ransom was buried at Tena and that none of it was reclaimed for some reason.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3531 on: October 31, 2018, 05:30:09 PM »

In the book, he mentions how the kid with the horn-rimmed glasses had elastic on the back and jumped with them.

It's possible Cooper had similar elastic..i.e. they were wraparound for use as jump glasses. (if elastic added)
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3532 on: October 31, 2018, 05:33:40 PM »
He could have lost all the money.
Money goes into Columbia.
Later, some of it gets transported by dredge to Tena Bar.

He could have lost the bag, and the bag stayed intact until it went in the river.

Only a couple of bundles might have been discovered or unburied by dredge.

That seems more likely to me.

I don't think there needs to be bills flying in the air. They were strapped.
Once the bag detaches from Cooper, it doesn't necessarily eject all bundles
It would be easier to tie the neck tight, as opposed to tying it to Cooper.
So two different tying issues.

Losing the bag doesn't imply money flew out.



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EU:
about Cooper's money

The most likely thing, is that Cooper lost the bag on jet exit..too much turbulence for his ad-hoc canvas bag attached.

He may have kept some bundles if he had stuck any in his pockets

So I don't think there's a need to talk about lots of money for a Cooper suspect. It's most likely Cooper lost all the money, I think.

It seems hard to believe the money stayed attached to him.

Snow,

I agree. We know for certain that at least 6K did not stay with DBC. This means that it is entirely possible that some or all of the money was lost for some reason.

While I agree the money could have been lost at the time of the jump, I believe it is highly unlikely. After all, there was buried money found on Tena Bar still bundled. And, no other money has been found. It just doesn't seem likely that if the money bag was detached that a significant portion of the money wouldn't have blown away in the wind which would certainly have led to many people on the ground finding bills.

It is also possible that the ransom was buried at Tena and that none of it was reclaimed for some reason.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3533 on: October 31, 2018, 05:43:38 PM »
Let's say Sheridan wasn't really Cooper but wrote the book to make people think he was.

Why would he pull the book off the market when I pointed out the parallels to NORJAK on a dropzone forum post?

It never again was available for purchase dispute his professed desire to see it widely circulated.

When Blevins generously offered to help Sheridan edit and get the book published online taking nothing for his efforts, Sheridan came up with endless excuses as to why he was unable to get a manuscript to Blevins.

Sheridan claims the book was "accidentally" offered online by Lulu. He claims Amazon took it down. Does anybody believe either of those improbable stories?

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3534 on: October 31, 2018, 05:44:00 PM »
On Quora in 2017, Sheridan claimed he fought on Iwo Jima.
I don't think that's true. Be interesting to know if it is.

What aspect of Japanese culture is hardest for westerners to properly understand?
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Japan is a very strange country. I spent 8 years teaching English and supervising English Language schools throughout Japan. My demeanor changed when I was in Japan. I am a very outspoken guy but I kept my opinions to myself. No one knew that I had fought on Iwo Jima until the New York times published a photo of me scooping up sand into an Ito Yokado plastic bag on the beach. A very beautiful doctor's wife told me that her husband never told her that he loved her. She thought that he may because of the look in his eyes. While Dr. Wakizaki, a cancer research specialist, and I were passing a red brick building he blurted out that's where the Americans hanged Tojo. It came as a complete surprise to me. I had known Dr. Wakizaki for years. He had never said anything political before. Yes, I agreed. Tojo was innocent. He was the CEO of Mitsubishi. Hirohito had ordered him to be his Prime Minister in order to have a tighter grip of the war industry. Tojo could not defy his emperor, a living god. Hirohito was warned not to attack Pearl Harbor by Admiral (I forget). But he ordered the attack anyway. Millions of Japanese military died for the emperor, not Japan. They were not allowed to come back alive. He was so sacred that people were not allowed to look at him when he passed by. He was solely responsible for the dreadful torture chambers near Harbin operated by fiendish doctors vivisectioning live prisoners - men, women and children. Yes The Teno, Emperor Hirohito was solely responsible.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3535 on: October 31, 2018, 05:46:43 PM »
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Let's say Sheridan wasn't really Cooper but wrote the book to make people think he was.

Why would he pull the book off the market when I pointed out the parallels to NORJAK on a dropzone forum post?

It never again was available for purchase dispute his professed desire to see it widely circulated.

When Blevins generously offered to help Sheridan edit and get the book published online taking nothing for his efforts, Sheridan came up with endless excuses as to why he was unable to get a manuscript to Blevins.

Sheridan claims the book was "accidentally" offered online by Lulu. He claims Amazon took it down. Does anybody believe either of those improbable stories?

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some people act before thinking - some people get what they wanted then regret asking! Passive aggressive?   :rofl:
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3536 on: October 31, 2018, 05:48:28 PM »
at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, his comment seems to imply he was at the 1985 Iwo Jima memorial?

Sheridan Peterson says:
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Interesting. At the Marine Corps reunion in 1985, there was a flagpole at the peak of the Mt Surabachi flying a Japanese. There were memorials and and two small buildings. Now this has been excavated
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« Reply #3537 on: October 31, 2018, 05:49:28 PM »
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at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, his comment seems to imply he was at the 1985 Iwo Jima memorial?

Sheridan Peterson says:
March 15, 2015 at 10:32 pm
Interesting. At the Marine Corps reunion in 1985, there was a flagpole at the peak of the Mt Surabachi flying a Japanese. There were memorials and and two small buildings. Now this has been excavated
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was he?  O0
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3538 on: October 31, 2018, 05:50:24 PM »
I'm thinking of publishing Sheridan's book without his permission.
I can send all proceeds to him. Put him as author.

I figure, "What's he going to do?" ...It wouldn't be worth it to try to sue me or something.

I wonder what he would think if it was available on Amazon. It wouldn't take much work.
I'd use the author's notes from him and everything.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3539 on: October 31, 2018, 05:52:04 PM »
I don't think Sheridan ever was shipped out.
He talks about being afraid of being shipped for the Japan invasion which never happened.
Don't think he was ever in combat
Other posts seem to imply he was never in combat, I think.

Be interesting to ask him directly.