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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3510 on: October 31, 2018, 04:06:00 PM »
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In this FBI memo 11/30/71, the person interviewed said Cooper kept putting his left hand in his briefcase

The subject had a sack and a briefcase which he kept putting his left hand in and out of, The subject appeared to be cool and casual.

This is Bill Mitchell.
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« Reply #3511 on: October 31, 2018, 04:09:35 PM »
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Heh

EU saying there are only two possible reasons for the book.

EU: you've not run into enough slightly demented people, I think.

The book is the book. I can imagine Sheridan just writing it as is, for no reason other than what he says...he thinks he's writing some interesting fictional documentary of his Vietnam experience.

But he's limited as a writer by always having to talk about himself and his life. Nothing outside his own personal experience.

Kind of like you: You're limited by your belief you're good at reading people.

Here's the thing: it's one thing to have a strong hand. It's another thing to convince the other guy to go all in when you have a strong hand.

You completely misunderstand why I am making such a bold statement.

Simply put, there are things that Sheridan says and refers to in his book that are remarkably similar to DBC. I assert that these similarities are too abundant to be mere coincidence.

I've used the example of Ted Kaczynski's brother recognizing Ted's writing after the manifesto was published. Same thing.

It wasnt Ted Kaczynski's brother - it was Ted Kaczynski's brother's wife. She was an editor skilled at reviewing people's writing styles. She linked Ted's manifesto with a prior article she had edited for Ted years earlier (during the Chicago period). Ted Kaczynski's brother was in denial and didnt want to talk about it - his wife kept nagging him to 'look at the obvious'. SA Fitzgerald already had suspicions. At length a meeting was set up between the Kaczynski's and Fitzgerald ... that cracked it after issues of family and personal history were cleared up.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3512 on: October 31, 2018, 04:09:50 PM »
I'd agree that the passenger's recollection about left hand in the briefcase is probably accurate.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3513 on: October 31, 2018, 04:13:19 PM »
I totally agree that Sheridan has used phrases in his writing that match Cooper's speech.
And that he had a way of knowing about an airfield in Yuma, AZ
And that he had a way of knowing that Minnesota was nice country when talking to Tina.
And that he would have recognized Tacoma from the air.

I always wondered how Cooper got to the airport.
I was thinking he might have flown in from another plane. But that would mean he didn't get the bomb parts locally in Portland. I was always wondering why the FBI didn't look for someone buying flares that week in a hardware or auto store, around Portland.

And if he had flown in, did he have no luggage other than the briefcase?

So weird, wondering what the days before the hijack were like, for Cooper.
 
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3514 on: October 31, 2018, 04:15:53 PM »
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I totally agree that Sheridan has used phrases in his writing that match Cooper's speech.
And that he had a way of knowing about an airfield in Yuma, AZ
And that he had a way of knowing that Minnesota was nice country when talking to Tina.
And that he would have recognized Tacoma from the air.

I always wondered how Cooper got to the airport.
I was thinking he might have flown in from another plane. But that would mean he didn't get the bomb parts locally in Portland. I was always wondering why the FBI didn't look for someone buying flares that week in a hardware or auto store, around Portland.

And if he had flown in, did he have no luggage other than the briefcase?

So weird, wondering what the days before the hijack were like, for Cooper.

Just to cover one item - Kaczynski was looked at after some people wondered if he had been DB Cooper. His age and other facts didnt match.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3515 on: October 31, 2018, 04:18:56 PM »
EU:
about Cooper's money

The most likely thing, is that Cooper lost the bag on jet exit..too much turbulence for his ad-hoc canvas bag attached.

He may have kept some bundles if he had stuck any in his pockets

So I don't think there's a need to talk about lots of money for a Cooper suspect. It's most likely Cooper lost all the money, I think.

It seems hard to believe the money stayed attached to him.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3516 on: October 31, 2018, 04:24:10 PM »
Alice said Cooper had his right hand in the briefcase at all times,,,


but I recall reading something else about Cooper using his "right hand" recently,, still looking
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« Reply #3517 on: October 31, 2018, 04:24:50 PM »
I showed my girlfriend the History Channel video of Sheridan speaking recently.
She exclaimed "He talks like he's from the Midwest"
I said "Well he's not. Grew up in Santa Rosa/Windsor"

she kept going on and on about his way of speaking. Said it was midwestern.

Got me thinking about Tina...and descriptions of "no discernible accent" probably meant talking like a mid-westerner?

What do people think of Sheridan's speech patterns in the history channel video
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Note Sheridan is pointing with his left hand in the video.
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« Reply #3518 on: October 31, 2018, 04:34:01 PM »
I was trying to think about how much it would cost to fly from Nepal to Portland back then.
My NWA flight schedule from 1971 at Dropzone.com (jpeg)....says it cost about $200 to fly coast to coast in the US. It doesn't have fares for the international flights.

But just guessing I would think it would have cost around $500 to go from Nepal to Portland? Probably at least one connecting flight. Maybe from Kathmandu to Japan, then Japan to USA. Dunno. It's an interesting question about just how long that might have taken.

Like, could Sheridan have flown from Nepal, with no luggage, and immediately hijacked. Or would he have stayed somewhere for a day or two, buying flares etc for a bomb. I would think he would have had to stay for a few days beforehand.

And then he would have to get back to an airport..probably PDX, and fly back?
Would he have had to buy some new clothes if the clothes he jumped with, got shredded?

It's hard to figure out the scenario.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3519 on: October 31, 2018, 04:39:12 PM »
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I'm curious about something. Does anybody here know a regular cigarette smoker? Are there signs of nicotine stains on their fingers?

I have not read anything that indicates that DBC had nicotine stained fingers, yet if he was a "heavy smoker" wouldn't he have nicotine stained fingers? Perhaps this is just an urban myth.

As a kid growing up in NY, I would occasionally see a neighbor's friend or an associate of my father's who had deeply stained fingers. I remember asking specifically once why they were stained and my father said that it was from cigarette smoking, and the guys who had these stains were usually smoking when we had this discussion.

Later, I learned that these stains only develop when someone smokes at least two packs a day for many years.

As for Cooper, I have heard intermittently that he had nicotine-stained fingers, but I haven't seen any documented corroboration.
 

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« Reply #3520 on: October 31, 2018, 04:40:02 PM »
funny 377. I thought Sheridan's story about kids field-packing/daisychaining your lines for cash was made up by Sheridan. How would the kids have figured that out, I thought.
But your account by Thom confirms it! so funny.

And we thought we were going to crush the Vietnamese (and now Trump thinks he's going to crush China)


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Every time we jumped we were plagued by people trying to sell us everything from cokeacola to their daughters and these boys were all over who would field pack for you for a couple of cigarettes. Carry your gear back for another one.
 

 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3521 on: October 31, 2018, 04:42:55 PM »
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SHERIDAN PETERSON.

I bet that "crazy old man" $20 that Trump would lose. Sheridan told me I was making "a stupid bet". I thought I was going to fleece a doom and gloom leftie who didn't understand or chose to ignore the most recent demographics and polls. I paid him in person with ten two dollar bills. Those blue eyes were sparkling as he took the bills. It wasn't the money, he actually told me I could keep it (I didn't). It was a sage chuckling at my naivete. The money was a tribute, a bow to the superior analyst.

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I made the same bet with Petey, but he refused my $20 check, saying that he would either send it back to me or deposit it into a special Nicaraguan Refugee Account so that when he and I ran off to Central America to escape Trump's America we would have some money....

... so as far as I know Petey still has some bucks from 377 and me....
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« Reply #3522 on: October 31, 2018, 04:43:30 PM »
No mentioned of "stained" in my OCR'ed FBI FOIA files.
some mentions of a suspect with stained teeth, but that's it.

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I'm curious about something. Does anybody here know a regular cigarette smoker? Are there signs of nicotine stains on their fingers?

I have not read anything that indicates that DBC had nicotine stained fingers, yet if he was a "heavy smoker" wouldn't he have nicotine stained fingers? Perhaps this is just an urban myth.

As a kid growing up in NY, I would occasionally see a neighbor's friend or an associate of my father's who had deeply stained fingers. I remember asking specifically once why they were stained and my father said that it was from cigarette smoking, and the guys who had these stains were usually smoking when we had this discussion.

Later, I learned that these stains only develop when someone smokes at least two packs a day for many years.

As for Cooper, I have heard intermittently that he had nicotine-stained fingers, but I haven't seen any documented corroboration.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3523 on: October 31, 2018, 04:46:23 PM »
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Re 377
I'm not as old as you, but:
Still it's a little bit of the shock going to the gym and the perky receptionist says "Oh you get the senior discount"

The funny thing when you're old: All the young women smile and chat with you. But it's a little bit of a shock when you realize it's just because they're being nice to the old guy.

Yeah, but I still like it...
 

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« Reply #3524 on: October 31, 2018, 04:47:53 PM »
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I heard Sheridan got in some fights with people from the internet.
That's hard to believe, since the internet is about peace and love.

From Snowmman, the Ghandi of the Internet.

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