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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3360 on: October 29, 2018, 09:25:03 PM »
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I requested Linn Emrich's 302(s) under the FOIA. I heard back today that my request has been denied.

I don't know what to make of it because they denied the request based upon privacy matters even though Linn died several years ago.

The case is not really closed so they will continue to deny FOIA's...

The thing is that the FBI has release a lot of other 302s from shortly after the hijacking. I have looked for Linn's 302 and have not found anything related to it. This is why I appealed directly to the FBI to get my hands on it.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3361 on: October 29, 2018, 09:29:42 PM »
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here are some notes I posted to DZ.com Feb 11, 2010

I mention a family case law thing in 2003 in Bakersfield. I have to find that
Not sure why I thought 3 kids with 1st wife.

I believe the 2002/2003 tip that led to the MJ interview, may have come from the Bakersfield wife around that time period. I forget why I thought that. I think there's a court case about support?


Bruce said "Mary Jean said further that Petey "had a child in the Bay Area, either a son or a daughter."

Married twice. That may refer to daughter from 2nd marriage.

First time in Montana. Divorced after move to WA. (divorce in '62, married in '56 I believe)
believe 3 kids with first wife, (son at least, confirmed)

2nd wife was Filipina. She apparently died while visiting relatives in Phillipines in late '70s. 2 kids
 
(edit) Bruce said "Mary Jean said the interview was conducted in 2002 or 2003, she couldn't recall exactly. "It was a long time ago."

If it was done when Petey was ~77, then 2002/2003 sounds about right for a date.

I wonder if the tip came from the ex-wife. I think there may have been a family law case between the two in 2003 in Bakersfield. Maybe support payments?


I do not believe the CA family law case had anything to do with the 2003 interview. The FBI would not--in fact, is likely prohibited--get involved in a local matter of this nature.

I believe the first Cooper DNA profile being procured in 2000 was the catalyst.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3362 on: October 29, 2018, 09:29:52 PM »
I found Claire in Bakersfield in 1968
It's a little loose, but the details match.
I'll post the newspaper mention
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3363 on: October 29, 2018, 09:45:16 PM »
I'm correlating info from an interview by Bruce with Alden Peterson, Sheridan's brother.
And a newspaper article. Given that we know an ex-wife somehow went to Bakersfield.
I included the marriage license again to confirm she was from Billings

Claire Peterson

Bakersfield Californian newspaper
12/16/68 page 26

5 kids..this matches what I thought i had elsewhere..2 of hers and 3 from Sheridan
That's what Alden interview Bruce did said?

Native of Billings Montana like it said on the marriage certificate
In 1968 the family was
Sabra 20, Blaine, 17, Mark, 12, Dana 10, Bretta 8
Notice no husband is mentioned in the article.
She got a counseling position at Bakersfield College

She studied at Cal-State Whittier and prior to that Montana State University.

At the DZ.com interview with Alden, on Feb 11, 2010, Bruce Smith said that Alden said there were 5 kids, and one was named Mark
Alden thought Mark was the oldest: BUT MAYBE IT WAS THE OLDEST OF SHERIDAN"S 3 KIDS..that would be Mark, Dana, Bretta, all within two years of each other.  Blaine and Sabra were punched out in another bubble, from Claire's first marriage


Prior, Petey had a wife in Bakersfield with whom he raised five kids, three of his and two of hers from a prior relationship. Mark is the oldest of the kids, and Alden thinks he lives somewhere in Washington state, but doesn't know where. "
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3364 on: October 29, 2018, 09:47:45 PM »
Maybe part of Sheridan's need for money had to do with support for Claire and family of 5. Along with the new kid in Nepal with the new Filipina wife.

Be interesting to see if he forwarded any money to her after the divorce in 1962 or while in Vietnam

Update: actually not sure of date of divorce. The sailshaw interview and Sheridan's book seemed to imply 1962..but maybe it didn't happen right away. Sometime after 1962?
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3365 on: October 29, 2018, 10:20:44 PM »
The oldest of the youngest group of 3, Mark, was 12 in 1968
that would mean he was born right around the marriage (maybe after) in 1956 in montana.

So it seems to make sense
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3366 on: October 29, 2018, 11:34:08 PM »
I think this is Sheridan's oldest son from the marriage to Claire.
The marriage license was Jan 7, 1956

From the dates, it appears Sheridan and Claire may have been motivated to marry due to pregnancy.

Name:   Mark Alden Peterson
Birth Date:   22 Aug 1956
Birth Place:   Montana, USA
Certificate Number:   5632-000776

Going to see if I can get the info to Bruce to be able to Interview Mark Alden Peterson. He may not have ever met his Dad.
But I wonder if in later years post-divorce, maybe Sheridan visited...say when he was back in the USA in the late '70s. or ???
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3367 on: October 29, 2018, 11:51:31 PM »
I have to admit the above represents some world-class research on the part of Snow. Well done indeed.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3368 on: October 30, 2018, 12:00:46 AM »
back to particles:   from Tom's site.

'A large number of elemental spectra of particles were recorded in the course of this research. In order to visualize the relationships, quantities and related families of particles, a custom software program was written to convert the spectra into a format that could be read by other programs. The MEGA (Molecular Evolutionary Genetics Analysis) was chosen to group the spectra into a family tree (Fig. 4). This software is normally used with DNA "bar code" to show relationships between groups related through DNA. The elemental spectrum is from a mathematical perspective, essentially the same thing, and will thus produce a family tree. The shorter the branch length between two particles, the more similar their elemental compositions. The tree shown in Figure 4, represents more than 450 spectra and are labeled according to their predominant groups.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3369 on: October 30, 2018, 12:00:55 AM »
EU: if we had the FBI FOIA back in the day at DZ.com, life would have been easier...we had crumbs back then.

Here it confirms Mark Alden Peterson, age 62 has relatives
Claire Peterson (that's the mom)
and
Bretta Peterson (that's the youngest sister)

Doesn't list Dana, but that's a brother or sister too (Not counting Sabra and Blaine, the stepsister/stepbrother)

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3370 on: October 30, 2018, 12:02:34 AM »
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EU: if we had the FBI FOIA back in the day at DZ.com, life would have been easier...we had crumbs back then.

Here it confirms Mark Alden Peterson, age 62 has relatives
Claire Peterson (that's the mom)
and
Bretta Peterson (that's the youngest sister)

Doesn't list Dana, but that's a brother or sister too (Not counting Sabra and Blaine, the stepsister/stepbrother)

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Could all of the Peterson stuff be moved to its own thread? This thread has become impossibly cluttered, Shutter.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3371 on: October 30, 2018, 12:02:39 AM »
Could the software they wrote have bugs? Could there be some errors?
Who wrote the software and tested it. How did they test it?

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back to particles:   from Tom's site.

'A large number of elemental spectra of particles were recorded in the course of this research. In order to visualize the relationships, quantities and related families of particles, a custom software program was written to convert the spectra into a format that could be read by other programs. The MEGA (Molecular Evolutionary Genetics Analysis) was chosen to group the spectra into a family tree (Fig. 4). This software is normally used with DNA "bar code" to show relationships between groups related through DNA. The elemental spectrum is from a mathematical perspective, essentially the same thing, and will thus produce a family tree. The shorter the branch length between two particles, the more similar their elemental compositions. The tree shown in Figure 4, represents more than 450 spectra and are labeled according to their predominant groups.

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3372 on: October 30, 2018, 12:03:39 AM »
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Could the software they wrote have bugs? Could there be some errors?
Who wrote the software and tested it. How did they test it?

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back to particles:   from Tom's site.

'A large number of elemental spectra of particles were recorded in the course of this research. In order to visualize the relationships, quantities and related families of particles, a custom software program was written to convert the spectra into a format that could be read by other programs. The MEGA (Molecular Evolutionary Genetics Analysis) was chosen to group the spectra into a family tree (Fig. 4). This software is normally used with DNA "bar code" to show relationships between groups related through DNA. The elemental spectrum is from a mathematical perspective, essentially the same thing, and will thus produce a family tree. The shorter the branch length between two particles, the more similar their elemental compositions. The tree shown in Figure 4, represents more than 450 spectra and are labeled according to their predominant groups.

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Ask Tom. All software has bugs!  :))
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3373 on: October 30, 2018, 12:07:00 AM »
I'll post Sheridan stuff in another thread, if it's not in EU's "book" thread.
EU can have his own book thread, but that's different than an evidence thread?
Or rename it "Sheridan Peterson - suspect"
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #3374 on: October 30, 2018, 12:09:13 AM »
Does that circle represent how things were grouped in the spreadsheet?
The raw data is still valid even if the grouping is off?

The raw data said Palladium right? no software tweaks on that?

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back to particles:   from Tom's site.

'A large number of elemental spectra of particles were recorded in the course of this research. In order to visualize the relationships, quantities and related families of particles, a custom software program was written to convert the spectra into a format that could be read by other programs. The MEGA (Molecular Evolutionary Genetics Analysis) was chosen to group the spectra into a family tree (Fig. 4). This software is normally used with DNA "bar code" to show relationships between groups related through DNA. The elemental spectrum is from a mathematical perspective, essentially the same thing, and will thus produce a family tree. The shorter the branch length between two particles, the more similar their elemental compositions. The tree shown in Figure 4, represents more than 450 spectra and are labeled according to their predominant groups.

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Ask Tom. All software has bugs!  :))
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