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Flyjack...I don't talk to you like that and sure as hell don't expect you to!

YOU accuse me repeatedly of using a BS tactic to change Cooper's height. I use the facts, context and reason to analyze the information. I have explained this to you before and you repeat the same assumptive error and BS accusation.

Those numbers are NOT inconsistent and while it is NOT proof, you can't eliminate based on them alone.

You clearly have a predetermined conclusion and employ a confirmation bias that includes false accusations.


both Cooper and Hahneman at about 5' 10" IN SHOES is consistent with all information.. if you want to think otherwise don't accuse me of some BS tactic.

With all due respect, aren’t you getting a little bit carried away with this shoes or without shoes bit ? I’ve been measured at 5’ 10 inches pretty much all my life ! It’s a measurement taken by Doctors, Military and is ALWAYS WITHOUT shoes ! When Tina or anyone judges a persons height, they judge the other persons height on what they know other 6 foot individuals height to be. I’m sure I would measure 5’ 11 or 6 foot with shoes on but nobody would mistake me for my 6 foot brother. I look up when I talk to Meyer because he’s taller than me by quite a bit ! It’s not rocket science ! JMHO

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Flyjack...I don't talk to you like that and sure as hell don't expect you to!

YOU accuse me repeatedly of using a BS tactic to change Cooper's height. I use the facts, context and reason to analyze the information. I have explained this to you before and you repeat the same assumptive error and BS accusation.

Those numbers are NOT inconsistent and while it is NOT proof, you can't eliminate based on them alone.

You clearly have a predetermined conclusion and employ a confirmation bias that includes false accusations.


both Cooper and Hahneman at about 5' 10" IN SHOES is consistent with all information.. if you want to think otherwise don't accuse me of some BS tactic.

With all due respect, aren’t you getting a little bit carried away with this shoes or without shoes bit ? I’ve been measured at 5’ 10 inches pretty much all my life ! It’s a measurement taken by Doctors, Military and is ALWAYS WITHOUT shoes ! When Tina or anyone judges a persons height, they judge the other persons height on what they know other 6 foot individuals height to be. I’m sure I would measure 5’ 11 or 6 foot with shoes on but nobody would mistake me for my 6 foot brother. I look up when I talk to Meyer because he’s taller than me by quite a bit ! It’s not rocket science ! JMHO

You just made my case... I guess you weren't following the details of the discussion.

No I think it’s you that’s not paying attention ! I just said that all your shoes or without shoes rambling makes almost no sense to me or most others ! When Tina or anyone looks at someone, they quickly can make a approximate judgement of that’s persons height based on a lifetime of common sense ! If I’m 5’10 and I look down at someone, I’m pretty sure they’re 5’8 or 5’6 depending on how much smaller they appear. Tina was 5’8 I believe so when she said he was between 5’10 to 6 foot, I’m sure she was aware he was taller than her. I’m 77 and I’ve never thought about a guy who was 2 inches taller than me “ I wonder how tall he’d be without shoes “ ! A person is either taller than me, same height or taller based entirely on how he appears! It’s not as complicated as you try to make it appear. Tina spent by far the most time with Cooper so I’m pretty sure he was 5’10 to 6 ft. Unless of course you have some theories that he was either barefoot or wearing high heels !

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Flyjack...I don't talk to you like that and sure as hell don't expect you to!

YOU accuse me repeatedly of using a BS tactic to change Cooper's height. I use the facts, context and reason to analyze the information. I have explained this to you before and you repeat the same assumptive error and BS accusation.

Those numbers are NOT inconsistent and while it is NOT proof, you can't eliminate based on them alone.

You clearly have a predetermined conclusion and employ a confirmation bias that includes false accusations.


both Cooper and Hahneman at about 5' 10" IN SHOES is consistent with all information.. if you want to think otherwise don't accuse me of some BS tactic.

With all due respect, aren’t you getting a little bit carried away with this shoes or without shoes bit ? I’ve been measured at 5’ 10 inches pretty much all my life ! It’s a measurement taken by Doctors, Military and is ALWAYS WITHOUT shoes ! When Tina or anyone judges a persons height, they judge the other persons height on what they know other 6 foot individuals height to be. I’m sure I would measure 5’ 11 or 6 foot with shoes on but nobody would mistake me for my 6 foot brother. I look up when I talk to Meyer because he’s taller than me by quite a bit ! It’s not rocket science ! JMHO

You just made my case... I guess you weren't following the details of the discussion.

No I think it’s you that’s not paying attention ! I just said that all your shoes or without shoes rambling makes almost no sense to me or most others ! When Tina or anyone looks at someone, they quickly can make a approximate judgement of that’s persons height based on a lifetime of common sense ! If I’m 5’10 and I look down at someone, I’m pretty sure they’re 5’8 or 5’6 depending on how much smaller they appear. Tina was 5’8 I believe so when she said he was between 5’10 to 6 foot, I’m sure she was aware he was taller than her. I’m 77 and I’ve never thought about a guy who was 2 inches taller than me “ I wonder how tall he’d be without shoes “ ! A person is either taller than me, same height or taller based entirely on how he appears! It’s not as complicated as you try to make it appear. Tina spent by far the most time with Cooper so I’m pretty sure he was 5’10 to 6 ft. Unless of course you have some theories that he was either barefoot or wearing high heels !

yikes, what a mess, I don't have the patience to unravel that, but you did confirm my point.

simple.
"you can't eliminate Hahneman because his passport said 5' 8" (no shoes and rounded/truncated)

I certainly lack the patience to try to unravel all your ramblings ! If my drivers license Or Passport say I’m 5’10, you can pretty much win a huge wager that I’m 5’10 !  Every single time I’ve been officially measured whether at a doctors office, Military or Motor vehicles office, it’s been without shoes or boots ! If his passport says 5’8, I think he’s shorter than Cooper or Me ! It’s not rocket science ! You’re really stretching once again ! Is it because you are plotting a book and need your guy to grow a few inches ? Just curious as I’m not buying !

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Flyjack...I don't talk to you like that and sure as hell don't expect you to!

YOU accuse me repeatedly of using a BS tactic to change Cooper's height. I use the facts, context and reason to analyze the information. I have explained this to you before and you repeat the same assumptive error and BS accusation.

Those numbers are NOT inconsistent and while it is NOT proof, you can't eliminate based on them alone.

You clearly have a predetermined conclusion and employ a confirmation bias that includes false accusations.


both Cooper and Hahneman at about 5' 10" IN SHOES is consistent with all information.. if you want to think otherwise don't accuse me of some BS tactic.

With all due respect, aren’t you getting a little bit carried away with this shoes or without shoes bit ? I’ve been measured at 5’ 10 inches pretty much all my life ! It’s a measurement taken by Doctors, Military and is ALWAYS WITHOUT shoes ! When Tina or anyone judges a persons height, they judge the other persons height on what they know other 6 foot individuals height to be. I’m sure I would measure 5’ 11 or 6 foot with shoes on but nobody would mistake me for my 6 foot brother. I look up when I talk to Meyer because he’s taller than me by quite a bit ! It’s not rocket science ! JMHO

You just made my case... I guess you weren't following the details of the discussion.

No I think it’s you that’s not paying attention ! I just said that all your shoes or without shoes rambling makes almost no sense to me or most others ! When Tina or anyone looks at someone, they quickly can make a approximate judgement of that’s persons height based on a lifetime of common sense ! If I’m 5’10 and I look down at someone, I’m pretty sure they’re 5’8 or 5’6 depending on how much smaller they appear. Tina was 5’8 I believe so when she said he was between 5’10 to 6 foot, I’m sure she was aware he was taller than her. I’m 77 and I’ve never thought about a guy who was 2 inches taller than me “ I wonder how tall he’d be without shoes “ ! A person is either taller than me, same height or taller based entirely on how he appears! It’s not as complicated as you try to make it appear. Tina spent by far the most time with Cooper so I’m pretty sure he was 5’10 to 6 ft. Unless of course you have some theories that he was either barefoot or wearing high heels !

yikes, what a mess, I don't have the patience to unravel that, but you did confirm my point.

simple.
"you can't eliminate Hahneman because his passport said 5' 8" (no shoes and rounded/truncated)

I certainly lack the patience to try to unravel all your ramblings ! If my drivers license Or Passport say I’m 5’10, you can pretty much win a huge wager that I’m 5’10 !  Every single time I’ve been officially measured whether at a doctors office, Military or Motor vehicles office, it’s been without shoes or boots ! If his passport says 5’8, I think he’s shorter than Cooper or Me ! It’s not rocket science ! You’re really stretching once again ! Is it because you are plotting a book and need your guy to grow a few inches ? Just curious as I’m not buying !

Again, you make my point..  and toss ridiculous accusations.. GET LOST,, I have no patience for this nonsense.

In this case the passengers are the worst witnesses...why, because they didn't know anything until after the fact. Mitchell was bothered that he wasn't getting any attention...the rest of them only looked at him once, maybe twice. that's why there descriptions differ.

If 8 people tell you a guy turned left and one thinks he went right, who do you listen too?

as Carr states, where do you draw the line...everyone can't be a suspect. the totality puts Cooper at 5' 10" -6'. 
are we sure his hair wasn't red, or he had a monocle vs sunglasses..
should we throw away the description like Robert Blevins has done?

I like the monocle angle.  Did any of the witnesses remember a top hat in the overhead compartment, or a cane stowed beneath the seat back in front of him?

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Flyjack...I don't talk to you like that and sure as hell don't expect you to!

YOU accuse me repeatedly of using a BS tactic to change Cooper's height. I use the facts, context and reason to analyze the information. I have explained this to you before and you repeat the same assumptive error and BS accusation.

Those numbers are NOT inconsistent and while it is NOT proof, you can't eliminate based on them alone.

You clearly have a predetermined conclusion and employ a confirmation bias that includes false accusations.


both Cooper and Hahneman at about 5' 10" IN SHOES is consistent with all information.. if you want to think otherwise don't accuse me of some BS tactic.

With all due respect, aren’t you getting a little bit carried away with this shoes or without shoes bit ? I’ve been measured at 5’ 10 inches pretty much all my life ! It’s a measurement taken by Doctors, Military and is ALWAYS WITHOUT shoes ! When Tina or anyone judges a persons height, they judge the other persons height on what they know other 6 foot individuals height to be. I’m sure I would measure 5’ 11 or 6 foot with shoes on but nobody would mistake me for my 6 foot brother. I look up when I talk to Meyer because he’s taller than me by quite a bit ! It’s not rocket science ! JMHO

You just made my case... I guess you weren't following the details of the discussion.

No I think it’s you that’s not paying attention ! I just said that all your shoes or without shoes rambling makes almost no sense to me or most others ! When Tina or anyone looks at someone, they quickly can make a approximate judgement of that’s persons height based on a lifetime of common sense ! If I’m 5’10 and I look down at someone, I’m pretty sure they’re 5’8 or 5’6 depending on how much smaller they appear. Tina was 5’8 I believe so when she said he was between 5’10 to 6 foot, I’m sure she was aware he was taller than her. I’m 77 and I’ve never thought about a guy who was 2 inches taller than me “ I wonder how tall he’d be without shoes “ ! A person is either taller than me, same height or taller based entirely on how he appears! It’s not as complicated as you try to make it appear. Tina spent by far the most time with Cooper so I’m pretty sure he was 5’10 to 6 ft. Unless of course you have some theories that he was either barefoot or wearing high heels !

yikes, what a mess, I don't have the patience to unravel that, but you did confirm my point.

simple.
"you can't eliminate Hahneman because his passport said 5' 8" (no shoes and rounded/truncated)

I certainly lack the patience to try to unravel all your ramblings ! If my drivers license Or Passport say I’m 5’10, you can pretty much win a huge wager that I’m 5’10 !  Every single time I’ve been officially measured whether at a doctors office, Military or Motor vehicles office, it’s been without shoes or boots ! If his passport says 5’8, I think he’s shorter than Cooper or Me ! It’s not rocket science ! You’re really stretching once again ! Is it because you are plotting a book and need your guy to grow a few inches ? Just curious as I’m not buying !

Again, you make my point..  and toss ridiculous accusations.. GET LOST,, I have no patience for this nonsense.

Apparently you have a reading problem as I asked you a question whether you were plotting a book ! That’s why there’s a question mark behind the sentence ! If I accuse you of something, you’ll know it ! So when did you take over this forum ? You tell me to GET LOST ! In your dreams tough guy !

yeah, GET LOST, you are just trying to discredit with this book BS "when did you stop beating your wife? well I just asked a question... FUCKING juvenile garbage..  the same BS over and over, I have repeatedly stated I am not writing a book and if somebody is that doesn't discredit them.. you really think you are being clever..

I am not responding to idiot comments anymore..

Flyjack, you have a lot of nerve reporting others for personal attacks while I read the garbage you posted above...this is the final warning....

I see another comment such as the one above attacking family members by anyone there won't be a warning, and you will be removed from this forum. backseat moderation is prohibited as well...

Shutter

You ignore all the shit posted against me.. refuse to actually moderate,

Remove my account and all my posts...