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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #315 on: July 17, 2014, 04:29:11 PM »
Sadly, I think Skipp just did what Blevins did and relied on what Lyle told him. he should have easily found the documents that were right there for the taking!! It's my opinion that Robert is making a fool out of Skipp. I think Skipp should have told him not to have anything to do with DZ. basically just move on to what ever else he supposedly does with his time. Robert is way to insecure to do anything that has public knowledge. he can't even stay away from negative feedback on Amazon.com. just like he always says, people read those things. reading him argue with people with his reviews is a big no, no. he went 89 comments with one guy. then made himself look worse by removing his comments, but not before the guy screen shot his ass. he learned a lot just from Amazon.com after I read those comments.

He obviously has a problem. he can't even accept his warning on DZ. he had to include another person to establish why it happened? he fails to see the very thing he tries to put on others is the exact M.O. he uses himself. this is my opinion. it's not bashing him. it's me telling what I think of his actions. he can't even admit he was the one who screwed up and got blocked completely from this site. I don't understand how others around him could tolerate his actions....
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« Reply #316 on: July 17, 2014, 05:23:41 PM »
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What's interesting, Georger, is that there are some people like Blevins who throw themselves into a storyline as though they are the real actors.  They play this out in a fantasy and expound on details that aren't factual, but allow just enough of storyline to make themselves feel as though they are participants.  I know that psychiatrists have presented these kinds of psycholigical disturbances in their research and some people refer to it as the "Walter Mitty Syndrome."

Well ... I have thought from the beginning this is all self-limiting over time; for a number of reasons. These things usually follow the normal bell curve. Years ago I thought 'two years at most', and I was using Myers-Dvork as the paradigm. That theory was dashed completely when RMB started his repetitive re-posting of things said before sprinkled with revisions. I lost count except that it is now into the fourth year! Reposts, revisions, promises of new info, reposts, more revisions ... and then I thought: 'His audience is withering under this blitzkrieg!' And just perhaps this time it has? We are here and he/they are there! One audience walked with its feet. But it has surpassed anything I thought possible ...
 
 

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« Reply #317 on: July 17, 2014, 05:27:05 PM »
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Sadly, I think Skipp just did what Blevins did and relied on what Lyle told him. he should have easily found the documents that were right there for the taking!! It's my opinion that Robert is making a fool out of Skipp. I think Skipp should have told him not to have anything to do with DZ. basically just move on to what ever else he supposedly does with his time. Robert is way to insecure to do anything that has public knowledge. he can't even stay away from negative feedback on Amazon.com. just like he always says, people read those things. reading him argue with people with his reviews is a big no, no. he went 89 comments with one guy. then made himself look worse by removing his comments, but not before the guy screen shot his ass. he learned a lot just from Amazon.com after I read those comments.

He obviously has a problem. he can't even accept his warning on DZ. he had to include another person to establish why it happened? he fails to see the very thing he tries to put on others is the exact M.O. he uses himself. this is my opinion. it's not bashing him. it's me telling what I think of his actions. he can't even admit he was the one who screwed up and got blocked completely from this site. I don't understand how others around him could tolerate his actions....

I cant even speculate about this Skip Porteous except both Coopsnoop and Gray have had communications with him.

Gray and I never talked about Skipp - it never occurred to me to ask Gray about him etc. I know CSnoop has strong feelings about this. I literally know nothing about this ... which may be a blessing.

It would seem apparent however that something or someone is driving all of this. Who or what that is I don't know.

All I can say is it has gone faaar beyond what I expected in both intensity and staying power, using Myers-Dvorak as the model. Im done making predictions about any of this. For all I know it will go on for another ten or twenty years! 
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« Reply #318 on: July 17, 2014, 06:59:02 PM »
I can say this about the real motives of Skipp Porteous and his quest for fame, based on a conversation I had with Skipp back in 2010.  I posed this question to him over the phone:   What would you do, Skipp, if you could produce a $20 bill with DB Cooper serial numbers found from the possessions of Ken Christianson?   Skipp's reply:  ""I" would immediately call a press conference and get national publicity, and 'I' would milk this for all it is worth."   
I will never forget that response.  It was made to me at about the time Skipp's book came out.  And, Skipp never mentioned the name of his co-author Robert Blevins.....not once.   Skipp is in his 70's, retired from investigations, and travels to exotic locations.   His only goal was to get rich as fast as he could, without spending a dime of his own money, or spend the requisite time to solve a major case.   Blevins was a convenient way to get published fast.  Skipp had the name, not Blevins.  Now in an ironic twist of fate, Skipp has moved on and Blevins is fixated and obcessed with the remainder of the Ken Christianson fable, still clinging to the last glimmer of hope that "anyone" will buy into Blevin's fantasies.  Again, these are the facts.  If you don't believe them, pose the questions to Skipp Porteous himself.  Good luck trying to get a reply, though.  Skipp wants no part of the Robert Blevins false crusades.
 

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« Reply #319 on: July 17, 2014, 11:35:20 PM »
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I can say this about the real motives of Skipp Porteous and his quest for fame, based on a conversation I had with Skipp back in 2010.  I posed this question to him over the phone:   What would you do, Skipp, if you could produce a $20 bill with DB Cooper serial numbers found from the possessions of Ken Christianson?   Skipp's reply:  ""I" would immediately call a press conference and get national publicity, and 'I' would milk this for all it is worth."   
I will never forget that response.  It was made to me at about the time Skipp's book came out.  And, Skipp never mentioned the name of his co-author Robert Blevins.....not once.   Skipp is in his 70's, retired from investigations, and travels to exotic locations.   His only goal was to get rich as fast as he could, without spending a dime of his own money, or spend the requisite time to solve a major case.   Blevins was a convenient way to get published fast.  Skipp had the name, not Blevins.  Now in an ironic twist of fate, Skipp has moved on and Blevins is fixated and obcessed with the remainder of the Ken Christianson fable, still clinging to the last glimmer of hope that "anyone" will buy into Blevin's fantasies.  Again, these are the facts.  If you don't believe them, pose the questions to Skipp Porteous himself.  Good luck trying to get a reply, though.  Skipp wants no part of the Robert Blevins false crusades.

OK. So here's the $32 dollar question (laugh).

What is/was Gray's role in all of this? Porteous had Gray. They were working together, as I understand it. Gray got a referral from Porteous? Correct? Conversations between Gray and Porteous lead to Gray dong research and writing his article on Kenny in The New Yorker? Correct?

Why didn't Gray and Porteous collaborate on a book, and a movie script vs Porteous/RMB ? If you know ...
It would seem to me Gray would be the obvious choice? For one thing Gray had written the Kenny article and done actual research. And Gray had established credentials as a quality writer of some note. Moreover, Gray was going ahead to write another book on the Cooper case and the FBI backed him by giving him direct access to FBI files!

Those are strong credentials, Gray. How did RMB wind up in this affair ???

Let me qualify all of this by saying (a) I have never talked to Geoff about any of this, (b) we don't have Geoff here to ask directly, and (c) I recognise that Geoff might not appreciate our even talking about this in his absence, and maybe we shouldn't be talking about this in his absence? It just seems to me Gray would have been the obvious person to collaborate with Skip Porteous, if the opportunity was ever there . . . ?

I will bow to the Moderator's judgment in whatever direction he thinks is appropriate here - and won't complain in any event! Shutter has my assurance on that!




 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #320 on: July 18, 2014, 12:50:48 AM »
Georger, you and I can both agree that Shutter wants the bare truth, no matter how abrasive or inconvenient it may seem to others.  You pose good questions and I can answer in part through direct knowledge and in part through inference.  Skipp Porteous was the investigator paid to find the director of "Sleepless in Seattle" and pass along Lyle Christianson's request for a movie about his brother Ken being DB Cooper.  Enter Gray, a writer for the "New York Magazine" with a story about Ken C. in October 2007.  Gray, or the NYM, came on the scene most likely through Skipp Porteous' efforts to launch a media campaign and put Skipp in the limelight as a bigtime NYC private detective.  That story launched a short-lived, but intense media coverage, and it came close to working for Skipp........but in the end..........no cigar.  It was the interview with Florence Shaffner that got the ball rolling.  Florence, who I've interviewed many times and find to be the least credible of the three flight attendants, made some comments about KC that got Skipp interested in trying to solve the case.  But after talking with Skipp on the phone and exchanging e-mails, I knew that Skipp didn't have the background on DB Cooper, nor the staying power to really explore the depths of the case.  Skipp wanted a fast, headline grabbing conclusion with very little effort.  Skipp also pointed out to me early on that Ken Christianson had some disturbing background (ie, involvement with younger boys).  As Skipp and I talked more, I got the impression that he only wanted star-studded attention as a NY PI with lots of girls surrounding him.  Skipp was not willing to work, that was obvious because many of Skipp's e-mails to me were from the Caribbean, Cancun and the Mediterranean where Skipp was vacationing.  We were both invited out to LA for a film episode of National Geo on the DB Cooper segment.  I declined, but Skipp went to LA and received a very small part in the documentary.  Skipp also saw some deadlines fast approaching.  He wanted to get a book out ASAP.  Enter Blevins.  Adventure Books is a dinky little outfit run by a couple of house cleaners.  The reason why Gray didn't partner with Skipp for a book was most likely because Gray is a professional writer and Skipp is not.  Also, as time went on I'm sure Gray saw the unlikelihood of KC being DBC.  Skipp is an opportunist with a penchant for flair with his all-girl investigative team.  Skipp got Blevins because Blevins was in the proximity of DBC country and was dirt cheap, or, free.  Unfortunately for Skipp, once he figured out what kind of guy he co-authored with, Skipp took off.  Gray didn't have to go through that crap, because Gray already had Blevins figured out.  And I got that from Geoff Gray himself over the phone.  Skipp is wise to Blevins too, it just took him longer to figure it out than it did for Gray.  Lastly, why did the FBI not receive Skipp Porteous, when Skipp tried desperately to get the attention for KC?   The FBI already debunked the KC fable, and wanted nothing more to do with it.  I even asked the agents why they didn't talk to Skipp, especially since Skipp was an investigator and once-time, short-term sheriff's deputy.  The FBI found none of them as credible.  Obviously, each assigned NORJAK agent has their own method with considerable discretion to deal with who they want to.  Tom Kay dealt with Larry Carr.  You, Georger, have also dealt with the FBI.  I've dealt with Eric Mueller, Larry Carr, and most recently, Curtis Eng.  Blevins will never get into the FBI offices, nor will Jo Weber.  And both Geoff Gray and Skipp Porteous know this.
Now, you owe me $32, Georger.  And please don't send me anymore DB Cooper books as payment in-kind. 
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #321 on: July 18, 2014, 01:39:52 PM »
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Georger, you and I can both agree that Shutter wants the bare truth, no matter how abrasive or inconvenient it may seem to others.  You pose good questions and I can answer in part through direct knowledge and in part through inference.  Skipp Porteous was the investigator paid to find the director of "Sleepless in Seattle" and pass along Lyle Christianson's request for a movie about his brother Ken being DB Cooper.  Enter Gray, a writer for the "New York Magazine" with a story about Ken C. in October 2007.  Gray, or the NYM, came on the scene most likely through Skipp Porteous' efforts to launch a media campaign and put Skipp in the limelight as a bigtime NYC private detective.  That story launched a short-lived, but intense media coverage, and it came close to working for Skipp........but in the end..........no cigar.  It was the interview with Florence Shaffner that got the ball rolling.  Florence, who I've interviewed many times and find to be the least credible of the three flight attendants, made some comments about KC that got Skipp interested in trying to solve the case.  But after talking with Skipp on the phone and exchanging e-mails, I knew that Skipp didn't have the background on DB Cooper, nor the staying power to really explore the depths of the case.  Skipp wanted a fast, headline grabbing conclusion with very little effort.  Skipp also pointed out to me early on that Ken Christianson had some disturbing background (ie, involvement with younger boys).  As Skipp and I talked more, I got the impression that he only wanted star-studded attention as a NY PI with lots of girls surrounding him.  Skipp was not willing to work, that was obvious because many of Skipp's e-mails to me were from the Caribbean, Cancun and the Mediterranean where Skipp was vacationing.  We were both invited out to LA for a film episode of National Geo on the DB Cooper segment.  I declined, but Skipp went to LA and received a very small part in the documentary.  Skipp also saw some deadlines fast approaching.  He wanted to get a book out ASAP.  Enter Blevins.  Adventure Books is a dinky little outfit run by a couple of house cleaners.  The reason why Gray didn't partner with Skipp for a book was most likely because Gray is a professional writer and Skipp is not.  Also, as time went on I'm sure Gray saw the unlikelihood of KC being DBC.  Skipp is an opportunist with a penchant for flair with his all-girl investigative team.  Skipp got Blevins because Blevins was in the proximity of DBC country and was dirt cheap, or, free.  Unfortunately for Skipp, once he figured out what kind of guy he co-authored with, Skipp took off.  Gray didn't have to go through that crap, because Gray already had Blevins figured out.  And I got that from Geoff Gray himself over the phone.  Skipp is wise to Blevins too, it just took him longer to figure it out than it did for Gray.  Lastly, why did the FBI not receive Skipp Porteous, when Skipp tried desperately to get the attention for KC?   The FBI already debunked the KC fable, and wanted nothing more to do with it.  I even asked the agents why they didn't talk to Skipp, especially since Skipp was an investigator and once-time, short-term sheriff's deputy.  The FBI found none of them as credible.  Obviously, each assigned NORJAK agent has their own method with considerable discretion to deal with who they want to.  Tom Kay dealt with Larry Carr.  You, Georger, have also dealt with the FBI.  I've dealt with Eric Mueller, Larry Carr, and most recently, Curtis Eng.  Blevins will never get into the FBI offices, nor will Jo Weber.  And both Geoff Gray and Skipp Porteous know this.
Now, you owe me $32, Georger.  And please don't send me anymore DB Cooper books as payment in-kind.

You confirm one thing for me when you say: "Gray didn't have to go through that crap, because Gray already had
Blevins figured out.  And I got that from Geoff Gray himself over the phone."

I also got the same thing from Gray, over the phone, on multiple occasions. Ive posted about this at DZ, and have been severely attacked for it by RMB. At least you confirm you also had discussion with Geoff and Geoff shared his opinions with you, too. That beats RMB declaring: "It never happened!" which is an astounding claim to make about somebody else.

Of the people who RMB tags as having "the truth about Kenny and Geestman", so far as I know Gray never interviewed any of those people, and nobody else has either. No neutral party has interviewed these people, so far as I know. And why is that? RMB has sent his pdf(s) to the media. Decoded was a public program. And still no followup by any credible news organisation; as there was in the Mayfield (Myers-Dvorak) case. Why is that?

Maybe the news media in Washington is tired of 'random acts of Cooperism' every time somebody surfaces with a claim without any official backing? Marla got attention - and RMB blew his stack and immediately began attacking her! RMB has severely attacked all of his 'perceived competitors'?  NWA Historian Bruce Kitt reports that Decoded producer Kagin "Threw a cow!" when Meltzer told her that Kitt did not believe KC had been DB Cooper.  "So far, RMB has been ignored by everyone in an official position to actually pull some facts out of these people he claims "know the truth" of Kenny and Geestman?  Something is wrong... or just maybe 'something is right and the media has wised up' ?

Random acts of Cooperism chasing phantom suspects! BY Adventure Books, whoever those people actually are?





 
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« Reply #322 on: July 18, 2014, 04:13:54 PM »
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Georger, you and I can both agree that Shutter wants the bare truth, no matter how abrasive or inconvenient it may seem to others.  You pose good questions and I can answer in part through direct knowledge and in part through inference.  Skipp Porteous was the investigator paid to find the director of "Sleepless in Seattle" and pass along Lyle Christianson's request for a movie about his brother Ken being DB Cooper.  Enter Gray, a writer for the "New York Magazine" with a story about Ken C. in October 2007.  Gray, or the NYM, came on the scene most likely through Skipp Porteous' efforts to launch a media campaign and put Skipp in the limelight as a bigtime NYC private detective.  That story launched a short-lived, but intense media coverage, and it came close to working for Skipp........but in the end..........no cigar.  It was the interview with Florence Shaffner that got the ball rolling.  Florence, who I've interviewed many times and find to be the least credible of the three flight attendants, made some comments about KC that got Skipp interested in trying to solve the case.  But after talking with Skipp on the phone and exchanging e-mails, I knew that Skipp didn't have the background on DB Cooper, nor the staying power to really explore the depths of the case.  Skipp wanted a fast, headline grabbing conclusion with very little effort.  Skipp also pointed out to me early on that Ken Christianson had some disturbing background (ie, involvement with younger boys).  As Skipp and I talked more, I got the impression that he only wanted star-studded attention as a NY PI with lots of girls surrounding him.  Skipp was not willing to work, that was obvious because many of Skipp's e-mails to me were from the Caribbean, Cancun and the Mediterranean where Skipp was vacationing.  We were both invited out to LA for a film episode of National Geo on the DB Cooper segment.  I declined, but Skipp went to LA and received a very small part in the documentary.  Skipp also saw some deadlines fast approaching.  He wanted to get a book out ASAP.  Enter Blevins.  Adventure Books is a dinky little outfit run by a couple of house cleaners.  The reason why Gray didn't partner with Skipp for a book was most likely because Gray is a professional writer and Skipp is not.  Also, as time went on I'm sure Gray saw the unlikelihood of KC being DBC.  Skipp is an opportunist with a penchant for flair with his all-girl investigative team.  Skipp got Blevins because Blevins was in the proximity of DBC country and was dirt cheap, or, free.  Unfortunately for Skipp, once he figured out what kind of guy he co-authored with, Skipp took off.  Gray didn't have to go through that crap, because Gray already had Blevins figured out.  And I got that from Geoff Gray himself over the phone.  Skipp is wise to Blevins too, it just took him longer to figure it out than it did for Gray.  Lastly, why did the FBI not receive Skipp Porteous, when Skipp tried desperately to get the attention for KC?   The FBI already debunked the KC fable, and wanted nothing more to do with it.  I even asked the agents why they didn't talk to Skipp, especially since Skipp was an investigator and once-time, short-term sheriff's deputy.  The FBI found none of them as credible.  Obviously, each assigned NORJAK agent has their own method with considerable discretion to deal with who they want to.  Tom Kay dealt with Larry Carr.  You, Georger, have also dealt with the FBI.  I've dealt with Eric Mueller, Larry Carr, and most recently, Curtis Eng.  Blevins will never get into the FBI offices, nor will Jo Weber.  And both Geoff Gray and Skipp Porteous know this.
Now, you owe me $32, Georger.  And please don't send me anymore DB Cooper books as payment in-kind.

The check is in the mail...

In the meantime, Mike Wolf of Antique Archaeology (American Pickers) has been notified to start looking - keep an eye out for - DB Cooper $20 twenty dollar bills ... as he sorts through barns, attics, out buildings, basements, old buses, old trains, old cars, old motor cycles, et cetera all around America (and in London and Italy) et cetera !

This is no joke!

 
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #323 on: July 18, 2014, 06:51:41 PM »
...............or maybe in the shopping carts of the homeless?   $20 will suffice, Georger.    EVERYONE by now, has Blevins number.  Invisible, yet, ubiquitous.   Blevins surround himself with "the invisible people."   btw, is Belvis still in the building?????
 

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« Reply #324 on: July 20, 2014, 11:17:07 PM »
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If Kenny sounded anything like Lyle, I think it would be similar to the lion on the wizard of oz. (put'em up, put'em up) I seriously doubt Kenny could be convincing enough to be tough in a dangerous situation. jumping from a zip line years ago will hardly train you to drop right by the accomplice, or should I say, Bernie.

No, he has not shown a consistent story. when truth is revealed he gets all bent out shape and turns it against the person who questions the evidence. they use these tactics in politics.

Yes. I know the routine - well.

Actually Myers and Dvorak were a lot more tolerant/saavy. They were absolutely convinced that that Mayfield was Cooper - they went public with it on media in Washington - but they never launched personal attacks on anyone who disagreed or questioned their work. Blevins, in contrast, has been savage in that respect.

Dvorak (I think it was) was suddenly killed in an auto accident and the whole Mayfield thing ended abruptly. Mayfield was actually the Mayor of his community when this started, so he publicly responded!

All things considered, the Myers/Dvorak episode was almost polite by current standards!


Mayfield hung up on me when I called him.  "I always get wracked over the coals when I talk about it," he told me.  Then, click.
 

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« Reply #325 on: July 20, 2014, 11:30:25 PM »
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Georger, you and I can both agree that Shutter wants the bare truth, no matter how abrasive or inconvenient it may seem to others.  You pose good questions and I can answer in part through direct knowledge and in part through inference.  Skipp Porteous was the investigator paid to find the director of "Sleepless in Seattle" and pass along Lyle Christianson's request for a movie about his brother Ken being DB Cooper.  Enter Gray, a writer for the "New York Magazine" with a story about Ken C. in October 2007.  Gray, or the NYM, came on the scene most likely through Skipp Porteous' efforts to launch a media campaign and put Skipp in the limelight as a bigtime NYC private detective.  That story launched a short-lived, but intense media coverage, and it came close to working for Skipp........but in the end..........no cigar.  It was the interview with Florence Shaffner that got the ball rolling.  Florence, who I've interviewed many times and find to be the least credible of the three flight attendants, made some comments about KC that got Skipp interested in trying to solve the case.  But after talking with Skipp on the phone and exchanging e-mails, I knew that Skipp didn't have the background on DB Cooper, nor the staying power to really explore the depths of the case.  Skipp wanted a fast, headline grabbing conclusion with very little effort.  Skipp also pointed out to me early on that Ken Christianson had some disturbing background (ie, involvement with younger boys).  As Skipp and I talked more, I got the impression that he only wanted star-studded attention as a NY PI with lots of girls surrounding him.  Skipp was not willing to work, that was obvious because many of Skipp's e-mails to me were from the Caribbean, Cancun and the Mediterranean where Skipp was vacationing.  We were both invited out to LA for a film episode of National Geo on the DB Cooper segment.  I declined, but Skipp went to LA and received a very small part in the documentary.  Skipp also saw some deadlines fast approaching.  He wanted to get a book out ASAP.  Enter Blevins.  Adventure Books is a dinky little outfit run by a couple of house cleaners.  The reason why Gray didn't partner with Skipp for a book was most likely because Gray is a professional writer and Skipp is not.  Also, as time went on I'm sure Gray saw the unlikelihood of KC being DBC.  Skipp is an opportunist with a penchant for flair with his all-girl investigative team.  Skipp got Blevins because Blevins was in the proximity of DBC country and was dirt cheap, or, free.  Unfortunately for Skipp, once he figured out what kind of guy he co-authored with, Skipp took off.  Gray didn't have to go through that crap, because Gray already had Blevins figured out.  And I got that from Geoff Gray himself over the phone.  Skipp is wise to Blevins too, it just took him longer to figure it out than it did for Gray.  Lastly, why did the FBI not receive Skipp Porteous, when Skipp tried desperately to get the attention for KC?   The FBI already debunked the KC fable, and wanted nothing more to do with it.  I even asked the agents why they didn't talk to Skipp, especially since Skipp was an investigator and once-time, short-term sheriff's deputy.  The FBI found none of them as credible.  Obviously, each assigned NORJAK agent has their own method with considerable discretion to deal with who they want to.  Tom Kay dealt with Larry Carr.  You, Georger, have also dealt with the FBI.  I've dealt with Eric Mueller, Larry Carr, and most recently, Curtis Eng.  Blevins will never get into the FBI offices, nor will Jo Weber.  And both Geoff Gray and Skipp Porteous know this.
Now, you owe me $32, Georger.  And please don't send me anymore DB Cooper books as payment in-kind.

Snooper, you've hit the nail on the head about Skippy.  He's as slimy as Blevs.  Skippy lied to me about his relationship with GG, saying that he had never seen him since the initial referral.  I laughed and said, "C'mon, you guys never get together at McSorley and have a beer to talk about the skyjacking?" (McSorley's is the oldest pub in NYC and is a wonderful place.)

GG also plays a strange hand. He is just as opportunistic as Blevs or Skippy.  Lots of folks can't stand GG - the Formans, Rena Ruddell and the whole Barb crew in California.  They tell me that they feel used and deceived by GG.  I find that Geoffrey is a very tough guy to work with.  He only calls ya when he needs something from ya.  When you're on his radar screen he can be very charming and hellpful, though.  He gave m
 

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« Reply #326 on: July 21, 2014, 08:34:51 PM »
I've got pretty much the same opinion on Gray.  I called him back in early 2008 and he was on the run at the Atlanta Airport and couldn't talk.  I tried again, but couldn't make it work.  I was looking for a lead on Flo Shaffner and I knew Gray had done the 2007 interview with her.  Then, a few years later Gray called me out of the clear blue and asked for the details about Tina Mucklow.  Of course, we spent about 15 minutes on Skipp Porteous and Lyle Christianson first.  Only about one minute on Blevins, as I knew Geoff Gray couldn't stand Blevins or anything about the man.  But what Gray REALLY wanted was how to get in touch with Tina.  It drove Gray nuts that i wouldn't tell him, even though we spent two hours on the horn.  As you know, Bruce, I spent some face time with Tina.  And I know you did as well.  I seriously doubt that Gray did, though.  We both know Tina too well to know that Tina doesn't talk to anybody straight-up about DB Cooper. :)   Tosaw did, back in 1982-or 83.  Jo Weber, ....no.  Jo claims Tina called her on the phone, but we both know it wasn't Tina who made the call to Jo.  As for Abraszinskaz, (Abracadabra) she used to e-mail me regularily right after GG's book came out.  She told me that GG was never privy to the stuff that she and Tom Kaye were privy to.  She told me that Gray put a lot of stuff in his book that just wasn't true.
 

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« Reply #327 on: July 22, 2014, 06:24:03 AM »
It's really sad to read what that little kid posted last nite on DZ about the show Decoded.

Here is part of what he said:
 "( I just can't wait to see his mugshot and take a picture of Bernie in the jail cell) After that we get on with our lives "

He is so convinced Bernie did this but fails to realize they said in the end they don't believe Bernie had anything to do with the crime. they also stated he wouldn't be prosecuted. this shows how mixed up people can get by reading, or watching something. they become blind to the truth. he has the show on his Ipad. he probably watches it over, and over. it's not healthy what he is doing in my opinion. he has repeatedly spoke of "pissing on Bernie's grave" when he dies. I don't think it's in DZ's best interest to allow a minor to be posting in the first place.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #328 on: July 24, 2014, 08:26:54 AM »
You don't actually believe that is some kid posting that stuff do you?   Blevins' little buddy?  LOL

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It's really sad to read what that little kid posted last nite on DZ about the show Decoded.

Here is part of what he said:
 "( I just can't wait to see his mugshot and take a picture of Bernie in the jail cell) After that we get on with our lives "

He is so convinced Bernie did this but fails to realize they said in the end they don't believe Bernie had anything to do with the crime. they also stated he wouldn't be prosecuted. this shows how mixed up people can get by reading, or watching something. they become blind to the truth. he has the show on his Ipad. he probably watches it over, and over. it's not healthy what he is doing in my opinion. he has repeatedly spoke of "pissing on Bernie's grave" when he dies. I don't think it's in DZ's best interest to allow a minor to be posting in the first place.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #329 on: July 24, 2014, 09:52:25 AM »
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You don't actually believe that is some kid posting that stuff do you?   Blevins' little buddy?  LOL

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It's really sad to read what that little kid posted last nite on DZ about the show Decoded.

Here is part of what he said:
 "( I just can't wait to see his mugshot and take a picture of Bernie in the jail cell) After that we get on with our lives "

He is so convinced Bernie did this but fails to realize they said in the end they don't believe Bernie had anything to do with the crime. they also stated he wouldn't be prosecuted. this shows how mixed up people can get by reading, or watching something. they become blind to the truth. he has the show on his Ipad. he probably watches it over, and over. it's not healthy what he is doing in my opinion. he has repeatedly spoke of "pissing on Bernie's grave" when he dies. I don't think it's in DZ's best interest to allow a minor to be posting in the first place.

I looked up his mothers Facebook page which is easy to search with Andy's last name with his DZ moniker.  It is semi-private page. However, her Facebook  includes pictures of Andy as well as other family pictures. If I remember correctly, Danielle (Andy's mother) is involved with an Autism Foundation in Atlanta.
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