the main thing I disagreed with while talking to Sailshaw was the time of his planning..absolutely no reason to have to put a decades worth of time jumping out of the back of a commercial airliner...not enough involved to take so long to plan..

Sailshaw was a good guy. I just think he got his facts mixed up. I dont see how he could have been working on the Boeing 737 airstairs in 1961. He allegedly told Sheridan that he couldn’t help him on 727 airstairs questions because he was working on the 737. He worked on the special 737 airstairs that Alaska Airlines ordered. It was an unsuccessful product and after a short while was removed from service.

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which information is inaccurate?

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Okay, the feasibility studies of an aircraft design that led to the 727 final design several years later is not really the start of the 727 design itself.  The requirements for the aircraft have to be selected and, hopefully, some customers will commit to buying the aircraft, before the actual design is frozen and people start cutting metal.

Who knows when the 727 design decision for rear stairs was made?  It probably was made after the design decision that the 727 would have three rear-mounted engines.  If Boeing had gone with a two or four engine 727, then they probably would not have used rear stairs such as those on the three engine 727, or even used a T-tail configuration.

Found something interesting on Hahneman..

Remember Senator Nedzi asked E Howard Hunt about Hahneman re CIA operations in Guatemala.

Media reported that Hahneman told a neighbour that he spent time in Guatemala. I found a document that names F W Hahneman as a member of the IGY in Guatemala, specifically the "World Days and Communications" section. The "International Geophysical Year" was a program to use military infrastructure to advance science in co-operation with the Soviets. In reality, that was cover for the "Space Race" the program was dreamed up by the CIA's Richard Bissell to extract info from the Soviets and launch spy satellites and the U2 plane.. Richard Bissell was the CIA guy who overthrew Guatemala's Arbenz. The CIA operation was run from Honduras and included Swan Island.

The takeaway..

Hahneman was more than a low level tech if he was a member of the IGY.

Guatemala was controlled by the CIA at the time Hahneman was in IGY Guatemala.

The IGY was public cover for CIA operations.


Speculation,, Hahneman was involved in the CIA takeover of Guatemala. The information about it became public after Hahneman was sentenced.

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The first flight was in March of 1962..that means the manufacturing was well involved in 1961 and mostly finalized in it's design.

The first flight of the Boeing 727 is given as February 9, 1963.

That's what I thought as well...let me see what else pops up..

Update: The first 727 (registration N7001U) rolled out of the Boeing factory on November 27, 1962 and took flight (from Renton Field to Paine Field) on February 9, 1963. It was then used for a year as a Boeing test flight aircraft before being delivered to United Airlines on October 6, 1964.

Whats the earliest date that Sail could have been working on the 737 airstair? I don't see how it could have been as early as 1961.

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Are you sure any 737s ever had an aft stairs similar to that on the 727s?  I do not remember having ever seen one on a 737.  The DC-9/MD80 series of aircraft did have one, or at least the MD-80 series did.

Not ventral stairs, side deploying, for Alaska Airlines 737s.  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

No way these could be safely deployed in flight. 

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Did any planes of that era have a rope ladder - say 500-1000ft of it stowed? For circus acts.

someone posted this on You Tube about Christiansen...

Im a P I who has worked with others on this case . Trust me I know more than you .
Kenny and Bernie his friend practiced parachute drops from a rented plane for weeks before the hijacking. there are dozens of witnesses who saw them that YOUVE NEVER HEARD OF  . Kenny used the lights from the dam as a reference point when he jumped at night. A road crew accidentally dug up his buried chute nearby with a bull dozer  .This is well documented by us . Youre just a stubborn old man and a fucking idiot if you dont know this. Go away you moron Youre obstructing the truth
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