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« Reply #270 on: June 22, 2014, 04:43:49 PM »
My question is, how do we know her name was Androsko in 1972?  Her name could have been something else back then.  We only know it was Androsko when Robert interviewed her in 2010.

 

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« Reply #271 on: June 22, 2014, 04:49:16 PM »
I see your point, but nothing was said about her getting married in Pierce County. Robert made a point of telling us Margaret's name was once Miller. all we know about Dawn is she was a single mother with kids in 1972. so, basically she got a $5,000 loan, bought a house, paid off the loan, and found a new husband all in the same time period? I don't know if I can accept that?
 

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« Reply #272 on: June 22, 2014, 07:24:22 PM »
That whole story certainly should raise someone's curiosity into looking into it further.

Richard Androsko died tragically at the age of 54.



 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #273 on: June 22, 2014, 07:43:40 PM »
why wouldn't Dawn mention this if this is her husband? she would be 54 in 1984. it fits. we need the marriage records to confirm. nice catch...
It appears to be Dawn's husband. he is from Buckley....



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« Reply #275 on: June 22, 2014, 08:59:58 PM »
A SUN-TELEGRAM H SAN BERNARDINO. CALIF. Tues., April 23, 1957 Marines Plead Guilty of Kidnap SAN DIEGO m Three Camp Pendleton Marines charged with kidnaping three women in suburban San Ysidro Feb. 16 pleaded guilty at the start of their scheduled jury trial in Superior Court yesterday. The three are Cpl. Jon Edward Stough, 29, Sgt. Carl Samuel Johnson, 26, and S.Sgt. Richard Lee Androsko, 27. Stough in addition pleaded guilty to a sex offense against one of the women, a San Ysidro mother of five children. Superior Judge William Glen continued the men in county jail in lieu of $25,000 bail pending sentencing May 6. Deputy Dist. Atty. F. E. Gallagher said the men forced the women's car off the road and seized one of them. The other two women fled on foot. NOTICE TO FINDERS The penal code of California provides mat one who rinds a lost article under circumstances which eive him means of inquiry as to the true owner and who appropriates such properly to his own use without first making reasonable effort to find the owner is guilty of larceny
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #276 on: July 01, 2014, 05:12:00 PM »
Hmm, I just got a response back from the Pierce County Library. it appears there was no obituary for Richard Lee Androsko in 1984? is it possible they ran it in another state where he was from? or did they just decide not to have one in the newspaper?

here is there response:

Hello,  Thank you for your recent email query.  We were unable to find an obituary for Mr. Androsko in the Pierce County Library System' microfilm collection.  The Tacoma Public Library's Northwest Room and/or the Washington State Library might have resources and materials that could aid your search.
Best regards,
 

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« Reply #277 on: July 02, 2014, 10:00:07 AM »
When we first started looking at Richard Androsko, I checked the Seattle Times obituaries because it was available online through the Seattle Public Library.  There weren't many obituaries...far fewer than now.  Since those are paid, it's possible one wasn't run.
 

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« Reply #278 on: July 02, 2014, 06:15:22 PM »
I've read a couple of interesting articles on McCoy lately. Now, I don't think that McCoy was Cooper...not at all. But I do find his to be an interesting story just the same. A thought came to mind though. What if McCoy had not been caught? Would we be here today trying to figure out what one individual did these two hijackings? And would McCoy have ever emerged as a suspect? Interesting.

Just thinking out loud here...hope no one minds.
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« Reply #279 on: July 02, 2014, 07:27:36 PM »
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I've read a couple of interesting articles on McCoy lately. Now, I don't think that McCoy was Cooper...not at all. But I do find his to be an interesting story just the same. A thought came to mind though. What if McCoy had not been caught? Would we be here today trying to figure out what one individual did these two hijackings? And would McCoy have ever emerged as a suspect? Interesting.

Just thinking out loud here...hope no one minds.


The guy had it made. his mouth got him in trouble, along with leaving a note behind. you do understand he was in a helicopter helping to look for himself. that's balls right there!
 
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« Reply #280 on: July 02, 2014, 07:30:03 PM »
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When we first started looking at Richard Androsko, I checked the Seattle Times obituaries because it was available online through the Seattle Public Library.  There weren't many obituaries...far fewer than now.  Since those are paid, it's possible one wasn't run.

I think we can say that it didn't run in any papers. you checked, and the Library checked, and found nothing. perhaps she already knew DOT would do something? I don't know.
 

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« Reply #281 on: July 03, 2014, 11:10:40 AM »
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I've read a couple of interesting articles on McCoy lately. Now, I don't think that McCoy was Cooper...not at all. But I do find his to be an interesting story just the same. A thought came to mind though. What if McCoy had not been caught? Would we be here today trying to figure out what one individual did these two hijackings? And would McCoy have ever emerged as a suspect? Interesting.

Just thinking out loud here...hope no one minds.


I think if McCoy was never caught, I think the FBI would of concluded it was two different people. it doesn't compare very well with Cooper. McCoy knew what he was doing. he was very calculated in his moves. I don't think we can say the same for Cooper. a noticeable difference in how the crime played out seems to be obvious. as far as we know, Cooper never asked about the path, altitude, or wind direction after taking off. I'm sure a lot of people would try and link the two as the same person though. just look at what they try and link now.

McCoy had a empty gun, and a fake grenade. I believe Cooper had a fake bomb. I don't think either one had any intentions of following through with the threats. If you were to ask me today, I'd say yes. the criminal mind is much different than in 1971. they kill for no reason now.


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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #282 on: July 04, 2014, 12:13:13 AM »
Sutter:

You think Sheridan was not as clever as McCoy but everything Sheridan did was for a reason. He was actually much more clever than McCoy and. that is why the Cooper case is still unsolved.
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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #283 on: July 04, 2014, 02:05:42 PM »
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Sutter:

You think Sheridan was not as clever as McCoy but everything Sheridan did was for a reason. He was actually much more clever than McCoy and. that is why the Cooper case is still unsolved.
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I agree. McCoy was head strong, materialistic, and myopic, in my view.  His wife apparently like-minded.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #284 on: July 04, 2014, 03:33:07 PM »
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Sutter:

You think Sheridan was not as clever as McCoy but everything Sheridan did was for a reason. He was actually much more clever than McCoy and. that is why the Cooper case is still unsolved.
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My point here is not to pick on suspects as much as it picks on the obvious differences between Cooper & McCoy. McCoy landed i think 5 miles from his house. this was due to his directions from the back of the plane. his timing was calculated to allow him the proper timing to achieve his plan. he was a pilot, and an expert jumper. the two combinations allowed for this to happen in my opinion. it could have been the perfect crime had he not left the note on the plane, and the shooting off of his mouth.

Since we don't know Coopers background, it only leaves speculation about him. some clues can be seen, but nothing is written in stone. can we say without a doubt he had knowledge of chutes? can we say he had all the information about the stairs? can we conclude that he wanted to jump in the area believed? could we assume Cooper lives somewhere around Amboy, or Merwin lake? or even around KPDX? or SEA. since he wanted the stairs down at takeoff?

what clues were given out allowing McCoy to complete his mission with no known issues during the jump. how did McCoy learn how to operate the stairs. did they also lower them for him? I don't recall anything said about the stairs that I can remember.

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