The passengers stated different accounts due to not having a reason to recall him...the stews are consistent with a greater height than it getting lower...none of his actions speak Cooper....the stews had reason to watch him note details...things they are trained for...until proven otherwise the statement I read says 5' 8".....actual data is needed just as it would be needed to counter eye witness accounts....or actual statements....assuming doesn't do it in my opinion ...

On my phone...spell check corrected words that are correct lol

It is YOU who is assuming...

you accept NORJAK witnesses but reject Hahneman's witnesses. << all those passengers knew he was a hijacker

It is too close and imprecise to hang a suspect elimination on.. PERIOD

Do you have another reason to eliminate him?

although your true height would be without shoes..law enforcement takes mugshots with shoes on..this gives them a better height to go by while on the street looking for you in the future..not everyone wears platform shoes either..sneakers, work boots, dress shoes etc..

the best bet is trying to find any arrest records on him...

lots of letters in the 302's and none have been proven to be Cooper..isn't that the letter reserved for Rackstraw? lots of suspects, or people claiming to know who Cooper was..

I don't see a lot of his MO being similar...he's violent, he used physical force. he spoke more with the pilots than the stews...nothing matching..

This guy demanded larger bills, all Cooper did was show displeasure when he didn't get the knapsack he requested..his pattern would of made them replace the bag with what he originally requested (knapsack) Hahneman probably would of made them leave the stairs down no matter what they said...

Agree 100% with this. A few things stand out.

First of all, the places where the m.o. changes are telling. If Cooper was correcting his mistakes as "Ames" (ex. asking for larger denominations), then he would have kept the successful elements of his basic m.o. the same. The differences, though, are huge. He does not show the stew the bomb, which Coop did immediately. He has direct, physical contact with the pilot in the cockpit. He does not use one stewardess as go-between consistently throughout, which was one of the most effective parts of Coop's m.o. He does not keep the passengers in the dark about the hijacking (thus INCREASING his risk throughout; Cooper was wiser here and is reported to have specifically chosen not to let the passengers know). Cooper avoided the passengers as far as possible, particularly later in the flight when some may have been suspecting a hijacking.

Hahneman is also shockingly violent/aggressive; Cooper was shown as being irritated about the fuelling delays and the lack of knapsack, but (to quote the FAs directly) was "never rude or cruel" and seemed "rather nice". I am quite certain no such description of Hahneman emerged. He was extreme to the point of putting a noose around the neck of the pilot and shoving his gun into a passenger's stomach (anyone can fake being calm before take-off; Cooper WAS calm throughout.)

Plus Cooper got on with the show despite the knapsack setback and wanted the fewest possible delays; Hahneman twice forced his own extremely long delays.

The basic parts of Cooper's story - hijacked plane with bomb, let the passengers go, parachuted out - were widely reported before "Ames"'s jump. The parts that were not yet widely known are exactly where Hahneman deviates from Cooper. It wouldn't matter if Hahneman matched Cooper's description in every physical regard (which he doesn't, while several suspects do, and others miss it only by one easily disguised detail), his m.o. is not a good match and neither is his personality/demeanour.  His personality was not just different from Cooper's, it was the polar opposite.

Then there's the New York accent mentioned. The Midwestern stews perceived Cooper as having no accent, which meant he either had a broad "North American" English accent or a Midwestern one that people with the same accent might not note. Anyway, New York is not the Midwest, Hahneman is mentioned as having a NY accent, and no one anywhere would fail to notice that or confuse it with any other. The accent alone should eliminate him as Cooper.

By the way, there were not 3 remaining crew and Cooper, there were 4 - Tina, the pilots, and the flight engineer. So if his m.o. matched Hahneman's, he should have asked for 5 parachutes, not 4. I also don't think he would have asked for any "front chutes" if they were all for crew - just back chutes. The requesting of the crew meals was widely reported, so Hahneman probably heard of Cooper doing that. Again, Hahneman was like Cooper in points widely reported - he falls apart as a suspect in the details that were not as widely known then.

Cause-wise - well, even if Cooper robbed for a cause rather than for himself, there were a LOT of causes in 1971, and more than a few cited as reasons for hijackings. (In fact, weren't most hijackings supposedly political in nature?) It really looks in Hahneman's case that a man with a cause borrowed the basics of Cooper's m.o. from the press. There's no harm in continuing to look into him, but honestly I don't see any real similarities here except in details anyone could have copycatted and several others did.

There is a reason they call them "copycats"

As I have mentioned many times. I don't mind people posting suspects. it's been going on for over 4 decades now with people coming forward with "similarities, or a coincidence "

I decided a while back to back off with looking into suspects and let others run down that path. it always ends up in a dead end. this doesn't mean it shouldn't be done by any means, but to take things personal is when it gets out of hand..we don't even know if Cooper made it. plenty of pros & cons for both. all these years and I still go back and forth whether he made it or not. same for the letters..I find it odd he would sign them as DB Cooper, none have Dan Cooper on them...some sound convincing even including maps where the money was/is...not one letter includes a $20 dollar bill giving positive proof of life after the jump. why go through sending a letter making it appear to be from Cooper without hard evidence. many believe he planted money to give some proof, but not in a letter? the letter is to prove he made it, no?

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There is a reason they call them "copycats"

 all these years and I still go back and forth whether he made it or not. same for the letters..I find it odd he would sign them as DB Cooper, none have Dan Cooper on them...some sound convincing even including maps where the money was/is...not one letter includes a $20 dollar bill giving positive proof of life after the jump. why go through sending a letter making it appear to be from Cooper without hard evidence. many believe he planted money to give some proof, but not in a letter? the letter is to prove he made it, no?

It is bold indeed to try and think for those people that we know well, let alone someone who we don’t know at all.  Those who demonstrate a personality trait of superficial charm while threatening to murder numerous people held hostage on an aircraft is an indicator consistent with a psychopathic personality disorder.  In this circumstance it is bolder yet to try and explain why a person does or does not act in a certain manner given any set of circumstances.  Postulate if you will what such a person would do if he survived and was following his own press coverage.  Ask yourself then, why would you name this ‘discussion’ forum the D B Cooper Forum and not the more appropriate Dan Cooper Forum?

You name it the DB Cooper Forum because everyone knows who and what that is - Dan Cooper is some guy married to cousin Molly who lives down the street from Freddie Jones and his wife and dog, somewhere in Wyoming or Argentina.  Naming a thing does not have to be 'profound'!

I'm not trying to fool anyone with that name..it's a little different..and I'm not Dan Cooper either. The forum is decades later..the letters were shortly after the crime while it was still on television...hot off the press...Dan Cooper wasn't sticking with the media...I just feel he would use the original alias vs a second alias...

Fair enough. 

Admittedly it is pure supposition, but if the scumbag survived, followed his press, and wrote one or more letters, it was to taunt his pursuers.  What better way to taunt than for someone who has openly exhibited at least one characteristic indicative of a psychopath personality disorder to highlight in writing just how wrong his pursuers were.