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« Reply #2175 on: January 13, 2018, 03:19:19 AM »
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... Fact is he (Bill Mitchell) was young and bright, tired, curious, questioning, observant,  ... and


... and now he is inconsistent, flakey, rude, flat, worried-looking, and isolative.

What does that tell us? It's the lens through which we view the past.

Same old Bruce, youre just pissed he wont talk to you any more. When he was talking to you his testimony was interesting and vital. When he stopped talking to you his testimony became worthless and rejected. 
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« Reply #2176 on: January 13, 2018, 04:18:42 AM »
Georger, your comments are devoid of nuance and real meaning. I have never said that Bill Mitchell's comments are "worthless and rejected." Rather, they are more important than ever because they point to a possible hidden agenda.
 

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« Reply #2177 on: January 13, 2018, 04:25:52 AM »
Georger, it is time to examine your behavior here. Your persistent mockery, character assassinations, over-simplifications, belittling or others, and glib but incorrect asides need to be understood.

You claim you are an "adorable asshole," or words to that effect. But you are also an effective provocateur. You seem to be working hard to maintain a one-dimensional investigation that protects the FBI and the interests of powerful people, such as the folks who run airlines. Creative, imaginative, thinking is certainly not in your wheelhouse.

Do you want to answer that, or just continue on your mission while those of us who see your troubling actions email each other or chat on the phone and speculate on why you do what you do?
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« Reply #2178 on: January 13, 2018, 04:57:40 AM »
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Georger, it is time to examine your behavior here. Your persistent mockery, character assassinations, over-simplifications, belittling or others, and glib but incorrect asides need to be understood.

You claim you are an "adorable asshole," or words to that effect. But you are also an effective provocateur. You seem to be working hard to maintain a one-dimensional investigation that protects the FBI and the interests of powerful people, such as the folks who run airlines. Creative, imaginative, thinking is certainly not in your wheelhouse.

Do you want to answer that, or just continue on your mission while those of us who see your troubling actions email each other or chat on the phone and speculate on why you do what you do?

Baloney. You have a mission Bruce. An agenda. Science and people of science are just in your way.

I am sorry if you and Galen are upset - the truth just gets in your way.

Give your jihad a rest?   You always get pissed when your approach grinds to a halt and people won't talk or cooperate with you. Your life is your own making - has nothing to do with me!  As you are posting things here at 4:52 in the AM no less!

"You claim you are an "adorable asshole," or words to that effect. But you are also an effective provocateur. You seem to be working hard to maintain a one-dimensional investigation that protects the FBI and the interests of powerful people, such as the folks who run airlines. Creative, imaginative, thinking is certainly not in your wheelhouse."

Your thoughts are words, Bruce. Not mine (thank God!). You have defined yourself better than I ever could.

You are a primary promoter of "bad science" in this forum, Mr. Smith. Some of us have also emailed back and forth about that, also. So the email flows many ways, Mr. Smith. Unlike you I dont know what the solution is. There is the difference between you and me right there. I meditate on problems. You publish manifestos and charges against people! You dont mind saying what's on your mind do you, for the world to have to deal with in your name.  :rofl:

You are the 1-dimensional thinker, Mr Smith. You have been broadcasting the same tired narrative since you joined Dropzone years ago and then you brought the same tired relics here - the very same subjects and words. I think its all you are capable of. And now you are trying to cut off fresh thinking - just as Colbert is fresh to arrive! You dont want Colbert or his team members here! You might have to take a back seat for a while! All you are doing is trying to protect the turf you have carved out here.

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« Reply #2179 on: January 13, 2018, 06:35:46 AM »
I've locked one thread this morning....do I need to lock another?
 

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« Reply #2180 on: January 13, 2018, 06:59:30 AM »
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I've locked one thread this morning....do I need to lock another?

Not for me you dont. Its just another day at the office I guess.
 

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« Reply #2181 on: February 02, 2018, 03:44:39 PM »
Sheridan Peterson would likely not have lost the $200,000 payload during the jump had he been DBC. As a smoke jumper, he would know all about jumping with external payloads and how to secure them to withstand the windblast on exit. As wingsuit (batwing) pioneer he'd know better than most skydivers about the windblast forces exerted on external devices and the effect on stability.

He told the History Channel interviewers: "I'd have made it man" referring to DBCs jump and indicating that he could have survived it. I agree.

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« Reply #2182 on: February 02, 2018, 04:05:17 PM »
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Sheridan Peterson would likely not have lost the $200,000 payload during the jump had he been DBC. As a smoke jumper, he would know all about jumping with external payloads and how to secure them to withstand the windblast on exit. As wingsuit (batwing) pioneer he'd know better than most skydivers about the windblast forces exerted on external devices and the effect on stability.

He told the History Channel interviewers: "I'd have made it man" referring to DBCs jump and indicating that he could have survived it. I agree.

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Sheridan Peterson would likely not have lost the $200,000 payload during the jump had he been DBC.

That's an important point! It may go to the heart of why DBC has never been identified.
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« Reply #2183 on: February 02, 2018, 08:47:11 PM »
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Sheridan Peterson would likely not have lost the $200,000 payload during the jump had he been DBC. As a smoke jumper, he would know all about jumping with external payloads and how to secure them to withstand the windblast on exit. As wingsuit (batwing) pioneer he'd know better than most skydivers about the windblast forces exerted on external devices and the effect on stability.

He told the History Channel interviewers: "I'd have made it man" referring to DBCs jump and indicating that he could have survived it. I agree.

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« Reply #2184 on: February 02, 2018, 08:47:50 PM »
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Sheridan Peterson would likely not have lost the $200,000 payload during the jump had he been DBC. As a smoke jumper, he would know all about jumping with external payloads and how to secure them to withstand the windblast on exit. As wingsuit (batwing) pioneer he'd know better than most skydivers about the windblast forces exerted on external devices and the effect on stability.

He told the History Channel interviewers: "I'd have made it man" referring to DBCs jump and indicating that he could have survived it. I agree.

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Sheridan Peterson would likely not have lost the $200,000 payload during the jump had he been DBC.

That's an important point! It may go to the heart of why DBC has never been identified.

I concur.
 

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Re: Suspects And Confessions
« Reply #2185 on: February 05, 2018, 03:45:55 PM »
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Sheridan Peterson would likely not have lost the $200,000 payload during the jump had he been DBC. As a smoke jumper, he would know all about jumping with external payloads and how to secure them to withstand the windblast on exit. As wingsuit (batwing) pioneer he'd know better than most skydivers about the windblast forces exerted on external devices and the effect on stability.

He told the History Channel interviewers: "I'd have made it man" referring to DBCs jump and indicating that he could have survived it. I agree.

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Anyone notice the poster at the front of screen when the two History guys are interviewing Peterson? The drawing of a parachutist carrying an attached package? Nice touch. :D  He'd have survived that jump. Peterson is worthy of his own legend. And though I personally discount McCoy, he DID make the jump. So anyone still saying the jump wasn't doable needs to give their head a shake. Several of the suspects could have pulled it off.

But to play devil's advocate, no one is saying Cooper lost ALL the money. He didn't get that knapsack he wanted and was dealing with essentially the world's biggest makeshift money belt. He was fairly miffed about it, too, according to Tina, who is up there with Tina Turner in world's coolest chicks, IMHO.
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« Reply #2186 on: February 05, 2018, 03:51:17 PM »
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Sheridan Peterson would likely not have lost the $200,000 payload during the jump had he been DBC. As a smoke jumper, he would know all about jumping with external payloads and how to secure them to withstand the windblast on exit. As wingsuit (batwing) pioneer he'd know better than most skydivers about the windblast forces exerted on external devices and the effect on stability.

He told the History Channel interviewers: "I'd have made it man" referring to DBCs jump and indicating that he could have survived it. I agree.

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Anyone notice the poster at the front of screen when the two History guys are interviewing Peterson? The drawing of a parachutist carrying an attached package? Nice touch. :D  He'd have survived that jump. Peterson is worthy of his own legend. And though I personally discount McCoy, he DID make the jump. So anyone still saying the jump wasn't doable needs to give their head a shake. Several of the suspects could have pulled it off.

But to play devil's advocate, no one is saying Cooper lost ALL the money. He didn't get that knapsack he wanted and was dealing with essentially the world's biggest makeshift money belt. He was fairly miffed about it, too, according to Tina, who is up there with Tina Turner in world's coolest chicks, IMHO.

Also, as we all get to go out on one silly limb here and wait for the birds to poop on us, I'm gonna guess the small green bag Tina mentioned (which I still do not think is the sack mentioned by others) contained D-rings. Just because it was probably more necessary to DBC than say, chewing gum or Gravol.
 

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« Reply #2187 on: February 05, 2018, 04:51:34 PM »
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Sheridan Peterson would likely not have lost the $200,000 payload during the jump had he been DBC. As a smoke jumper, he would know all about jumping with external payloads and how to secure them to withstand the windblast on exit. As wingsuit (batwing) pioneer he'd know better than most skydivers about the windblast forces exerted on external devices and the effect on stability.

He told the History Channel interviewers: "I'd have made it man" referring to DBCs jump and indicating that he could have survived it. I agree.

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Anyone notice the poster at the front of screen when the two History guys are interviewing Peterson? The drawing of a parachutist carrying an attached package? Nice touch. :D  He'd have survived that jump. Peterson is worthy of his own legend. And though I personally discount McCoy, he DID make the jump. So anyone still saying the jump wasn't doable needs to give their head a shake. Several of the suspects could have pulled it off.

But to play devil's advocate, no one is saying Cooper lost ALL the money. He didn't get that knapsack he wanted and was dealing with essentially the world's biggest makeshift money belt. He was fairly miffed about it, too, according to Tina, who is up there with Tina Turner in world's coolest chicks, IMHO.

Also, as we all get to go out on one silly limb here and wait for the birds to poop on us, I'm gonna guess the small green bag Tina mentioned (which I still do not think is the sack mentioned by others) contained D-rings. Just because it was probably more necessary to DBC than say, chewing gum or Gravol.

I'm gonna guess the small green bag Tina mentioned (which I still do not think is the sack mentioned by others) contained D-rings.

If true that elevates DBC's vita ... I wish this were knowable but ... alas. Tina's last observation was of him tying the money bag around his waist?

Any comments about prints and dna ? mtdna? Or the money find, for that matter ...
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« Reply #2188 on: February 05, 2018, 05:47:36 PM »
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anyone still saying the jump wasn't doable needs to give their head a shake. Several of the suspects could have pulled it off.

Just about anything can be done...we really don't know the experience Cooper had..it's not that hard to pull a ripcord, but lot's of things can happen..any fool can pull a trigger, but it doesn't make them a marksman..all the others made it, so the odds are in his favor..I'm very skeptical about things so I'm not sure either way to be honest..
 

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« Reply #2189 on: February 05, 2018, 06:17:03 PM »
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anyone still saying the jump wasn't doable needs to give their head a shake. Several of the suspects could have pulled it off.

Just about anything can be done...we really don't know the experience Cooper had..it's not that hard to pull a ripcord, but lot's of things can happen..any fool can pull a trigger, but it doesn't make them a marksman..all the others made it, so the odds are in his favor..I'm very skeptical about things so I'm not sure either way to be honest..

"any fool can pull a trigger, but it doesn't make them a marksman..."  So true Shutter.

You'd be surprised how many experienced skydivers have died when they encountered their first main chute malfunction. What should have been a simple cutaway and reserve pull turns into a fatality. When everything goes right, anybody can make a successful jump.  When things go wrong or unexpected circumstances are encountered things can go to hell real fast.

If Cooper didn't pull right off the steps, a spin was certainly a possibility. Without a good visual horizon and heading reference, things could go to hell real fast.

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