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I believe that's exactly what happened to Tina.  The change in her over the years after the hijacking was pretty dramatic.  IMHO, she fell prey to this horrible thing called PTSD.

...People cannot go in the convent so it could not be verified, and all needed to do this is participation by the head nun...and this isn't the first time authorities have used a convent as a ruse.

Please tell us more, Dice. I've heard interesting stories about convents being used for a variety of purposes: Witness Protection, rehab for female spooks with PTSD, facilities to perform MKUTRA stuff. I even heard some of this from a nun! (Who happened to be waiting for a bus at Dr. ET's clinic when I went there to talk to the Good Doctor about Tina.)

The World of The Nuns is a strange realm, and I've love to know more. The Big Question for me is how best to approach the ladies. My initial foray with Sister Theresa at Maria Regina didn't go so good, if y'all remember my tale...

Galen and I have been working up another strategy to approach the Carmelites. I'm working on two theories. One is Tina and Witness Protection/PTSD. The other is a general approach of what the Carmelites truly believe in terms of consciousness. The Carmelites' founder, Saint Theresa of Avila, was canonized by the Church, in part, for levitating. The historical record claims that she would go in to ecstatic, disassociative states while in deep prayer and then float about the church building. I'd like to hear more about that. Galen and I are working on talking with some of the leadership of the Carmelites on this subject, and after that, if we build some rapport perhaps we can talk about what really went down in Eugene on Green Hill Road from 1980 to 1991.

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Bruce wrote: "The Carmelites' founder, Saint Theresa of Avila, was canonized by the Church, in part, for levitating. The historical record claims that she would go in to ecstatic, disassociative states while in deep prayer and then float about the church building."

Hmm...  Maybe I've been wasting money on jumpships. And maybe on parachute as well.

377

Einstein was wrong! Smith and Syster Theresa are right. But, Smith did say this all happens in the mind - in a disassociative states?  Maybe Einstein was right after all ... and Smith is just stir-crazy? He doesn't get out much.
 

Actually, I think that Bruce, as a self-styled journalist and "Cooper Investigator", is posting in the wrong place.  Bruce should be posting on one of the UFO sites where he, without question, would find a warm welcome discussing the present USA colonies on the moon and the little green men from Mars.  And he could explain the virtues of his "distant viewing" work and other such beliefs.

He could also rip NASA's cover-up of such events and provide his own explanation as to why the moon colonies and evidence of Mars civilization can't be found by their moon and Mars landers.

This pathologizing of Tina: damaged, PTSD, fractured, shattered, a mere husk of her former confident perky self.

That's not who I saw on the History Channel DB Cooper Case Closed special.

But did we see the real Tina Mucklow? No proof that we did.

The CIA and FBI use robots, doubles, actors. Anything to obscure the MK Ultra aftermath. 

And R99, I have seen photos of a 900 KM railroad line on Mars. You need to wake up.

377

Heh, heh... and to think I started it...

...but seriously - 377, is there any talk on your end of things in Jump World of using enhancements on parachutes to generate such things as increased lift, or increased horizontal speeds?

There is a lot of research going into electrogravitics for reducing "g." One field is the use of electrostatic fields. NASA is using a form of enhanced electrostatic fields on its Deep Space I explorer, where the exhausts are electrically charged to create more thrust. Similarly, electrostatic devices are being installed on the leading edges of the wings of Stealth planes, as I hear it, to increase their speed beyond what their engines can produce.

Here is the science as I understand it: Air molecules carry an electric charge. So when a plane moves through air it is also moving through an electromagnetic field, albeit a weak one. So, if the electrostatic charge on the wing edge could be controlled, the plane would move through the air with less electromagnetic resistance, or conversely, be pulled through the air more dynamically.

I can see the same thing with parachutes. If the chutes and lines could be charged somehow, the chute might float longer and further. Theoretically, you might never come down.

What say you?

Shutter, I suppose this is posted in the wrong place, so please move where it might be a better fit. Thanks.

Galen and I have been working up another strategy to approach the Carmelites.

It appears I've been baptized with a nickname by Bruce....  "Dice"  I like it... makes me think of the Diceman.... thanks...
Regarding looking for an in with the nuns...well I wouldn't hold your breath....nor would I waste my time trying to approach nuns with what you're after....    and I am speaking out of deep experience dealing with them while living in Rome, especially the head of a group or order.... they are quite miserable, though not hard to figure out why.... aren't getting the most natural things a woman needs,most  notably children and sense of importance from it, and male affection/satisfaction.... I do feel quite sorry for them, the sacrifice they truly make, for their beliefs, and for their church. some of the things I've learned, and the coldness and meanness exhibited, the wide range of bad emotions, show up in nuns. you cannot sweet talk them, for it wont work... the only thing they respond to is the motherly instinct...but it won't work... because if it were a ruse, youd have to find perhaps the one sole person who knew, and they won't talk.. if it weren't a ruse, and she did live there, then they accepted her under the opposite reasons you and your buddy are trying to get info...  the only people who I think could breach that proverbial veil, is someone who has known the nun, since they were a child...

And a shout-out to Marty....whats up.... of course I thought of that she could have been religious and wanted to go into the cloth...  unless I am very mistaken, it just seemed so peculiar that she supposedly did so, soon after the Tina money find, where she happened to live only a few miles from there.... coincidence?

In this ruse scenario, who knows, maybe the Tina money was planted by Cooper or those involved in a covert Op,  either to symbolically tip their hat to her (Cooper)  or, maybe to scare her silent.

Dice

Dice, you can just call me Cousin Brucie. It used to be Georger's favorite pet name for me. Now, I shudder to think what he calls me in private...

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Bruce wrote: "The Carmelites' founder, Saint Theresa of Avila, was canonized by the Church, in part, for levitating. The historical record claims that she would go in to ecstatic, disassociative states while in deep prayer and then float about the church building."

Hmm...  Maybe I've been wasting money on jumpships. And maybe on parachute as well.

377

Einstein was wrong! Smith and Syster Theresa are right. But, Smith did say this all happens in the mind - in a disassociative states?  Maybe Einstein was right after all ... and Smith is just stir-crazy? He doesn't get out much.
 

Actually, I think that Bruce, as a self-styled journalist and "Cooper Investigator", is posting in the wrong place.  Bruce should be posting on one of the UFO sites where he, without question, would find a warm welcome discussing the present USA colonies on the moon and the little green men from Mars.  And he could explain the virtues of his "distant viewing" work and other such beliefs.

He could also rip NASA's cover-up of such events and provide his own explanation as to why the moon colonies and evidence of Mars civilization can't be found by their moon and Mars landers.

It's not like you couldn't see it coming.  Bruce takes us on a side show to the bizarre world of the beserk; then R99 and Georger swoop in and drop their bombs.  Gotta laugh....cracks me up.
Meyer

Good tip, R99. I'll get on it right away. Gawd knows I need all the revenue streams I can get!